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UKIP, EDL, BNP .... what will happen when Brexit falls apart?

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jura2 Mon 15-Jan-18 15:04:35

We can mock and laugh, and also feel sorry for some of the people whose comments in TV and newspaper interviews, and rants in streets or public transport- often showing very poor level of education and understanding - but they will be dangerous- and Farage is egging them on?!

MaizieD Thu 18-Jan-18 23:54:54

I'm happy we're clear who exactly people are concerned about.

Has it taken 3 pages to work that out?hmm

MissAdventure Fri 19-Jan-18 00:01:02

confused yes!

Maggiemaybe Fri 19-Jan-18 00:09:10

I don't think the march on the Supreme Court actually happened, did it? Didn't Farage call it off when it became obvious that he couldn't muster enough support?

Day6 Fri 19-Jan-18 00:20:48

"Unbelievable that some posters refuse to see the danger of racist attacks escalating further. Wake up!"

No one is denying racists exist but are we to live in fear of riots - or is that just another Project Fear ploy? When was the last racist riot by the way? Most nationalist group rallies are few, controversial when they happen and are shunned by most. Why will it be any different after Brexit?

Scare mongering?

Remainers have done their best to portray anyone who voted Leave as a person who went that way because they are racist. That in itself is disgusting. The reasons for getting out of the EU are many and various. The OP is a mixture of snobbish disdain and a sneering record of how she 'mocks' and 'laughs at' people without her standard of education who hold different views. She'd probably prefer it if people had to hand in a record of their educational achievements before being allowed to vote.

It does outline what the press has mentioned. Remainers and many left wingers are imperious and full of contempt for others. You can almost see their lips curling in derision at those who want to leave the EU and they gleefully use racism as a tired old smear. It's very telling.

loopyloo Fri 19-Jan-18 07:29:49

All I said on page 1 was that Momentum was keen to take protest to the streets. By which I meant our legitimate right to march in the streets. I did not mean public disorder and rioting.
And I hope the left has not lost the will to protest on behalf of the people as at the end of the day that is sometimes the only thing to be done.

jura2 Fri 19-Jan-18 09:09:51

I'm happy we're clear who exactly people are concerned about.

Not yet, according to Day6's last post sad

lemongrove Fri 19-Jan-18 09:10:30

You said it all Day6 so I don’t need to, but will just add.....
Because they have nothing new to say, Remoaners on here are doing the tired all racist jibes that pop up on here to try and make anyone who voted Leave feel uncomfortable.....it’s the only arrow left in their quiver! However, as we on here are not racist it needn’t concern us, neither does imagining some future anarchy.

MaizieD Fri 19-Jan-18 09:14:54

Remoaners on here...

I have held off for a long time but I think from now on Leavers are Brexshitters

lemongrove Fri 19-Jan-18 09:27:41

You have thought that from the start I expect Maizie but who cares? Your one is just coarse though.
You have nothing new to say and Brexit will soon be a reality.Get over it.

durhamjen Fri 19-Jan-18 09:30:39

Are you on repeat, lemon...
What new things have you said?
Can you tell us one way in which life will be improved if we leave the EU?

ninny Fri 19-Jan-18 09:54:38

Spot on Day6 and Lemongrove agree with all your posts.
How common MaizieD your true colours showing.

MaizieD Fri 19-Jan-18 10:31:48

How common MaizieD your true colours showing.

How hypocrtical, ninny

I actually abhor such rudeness but I am truly fed up with people who democratically oppose Brexit being subject to stupid name calling. You, and other Leavers, tell me that you don't approve of Leavers being called 'Remoaners', either and I might be more tolerant of bad mannered individuals who want to reduce the debate to playground level.

ninny Fri 19-Jan-18 12:58:38

Actually I think it's the other way around Remainers calling Leavers, racist, xenophobic and worse.

MaizieD Fri 19-Jan-18 13:03:09

If the cap fits, ninny....

Otherwise, please separate justifiable condemnation of racists who voted Leave from generalisations which you, as a Leaver, are making.

ninny Fri 19-Jan-18 13:16:36

That's the problem you and some other remainer posters don't.

MaizieD Fri 19-Jan-18 13:19:46

Can you cite a post in which I say that Leavers are racists?

I don't think you'll find one; I think you're just making this up..

petra Fri 19-Jan-18 13:31:27

MaizeD
You, and many other posters who voted to remain have always been clever enough not to state categorically that we leavers are racist, but we all know it's there.

MaizieD Fri 19-Jan-18 13:36:14

You have just completely taken my breath away, petra.

I've seen a lot of stupid statements on this forum but that one really takes the biscuit.

I'm glad you think we're clever, though...

lemongrove Fri 19-Jan-18 13:59:48

Petra wink I wouldn’t say clever, I would use the word crafty.

jura2 Fri 19-Jan-18 14:00:28

This thread was clearly about a small section of leavers, UKIP, but mainly (didn't make that clear, my bad) - EDL and BNP. That was 100% clear in the title of the thread- no way did I say, or anyone, that all leavers were racist, NO WHERE - apart from in your head petra, and a few others.

You are deliberately misreading and misinterpreting a thread that was very clear from the start. If you 'know it's there' it may well be because it is, for you.

Morgana Fri 19-Jan-18 15:23:26

Durham Jen: no reply yet to your question about post Brexit! As you know I am still waiting too. But then we have also had no reply to the question of who WILL be blamed IF it all goes badly.

Bridgeit Fri 19-Jan-18 15:35:35

I don't believe everything was hunky dory being in the EU, & I certainly don't believe everything will be ok out of the EU.
We were asked to vote at a time of rising concerns about immigration,with many people being carried along on a tide of lies, exaggeration & regurgitated patriotism , inflated by the self serving Mr Farrage.
The whole situation is disastrous . I think there should be/ have been a 2nd vote, once substantial facts & figures were available .As it is it's just like a game of ' pin the tail on the donkey'

petra Fri 19-Jan-18 16:33:27

Morgana
^ 'IF' it all goes badly^
Was that a Freudian slip on your part? Surely you meant to put when

durhamjen Fri 19-Jan-18 21:49:39

"Henry Bolton could survive being ousted as Ukip leader because the party cannot afford to hold a contest to replace him.

HuffPost UK has learned Ukip’s finances are in such a state that it would struggle to stump up the cash for what would be its fourth leadership contest in 15 months.

A well-placed source said a fresh leadership election to replace the under-fire Bolton could cost between £30,000 and £60,000, and it might need to axe staff in order to finance the contest.

According to the Electoral Commission, Ukip received just £25,140 in cash donations in the final three months of 2017 and membership rates have falling for months. "

So those Ukip wallies are going to have to keep Bolton, unless they cough up a bit more to get rid of him.

jura2 Sat 20-Jan-18 14:21:52

which basically mean UKIP is finished.

Now I'd be ther first to celebrate their downfall.
But as said on the other thread- if it means that many will run to EDL or BNP - not necessarily a good thing.