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UKIP, EDL, BNP .... what will happen when Brexit falls apart?

(145 Posts)
whitewave Tue 16-Jan-18 08:33:34

grin I doubt it.

jura2 Tue 16-Jan-18 08:19:12

You do know Champagne comes from Champagne- in France ;)

jura2 Tue 16-Jan-18 08:16:48

nice to know you will be celebrating the collapse of the economy, 1000s of jobs and the NHS with it- but hey ho.

lemongrove Mon 15-Jan-18 22:37:48

Yes thanks Deedaa although it hasn’t actually happened yet and won’t until 2019 at the earliest.I have the champagne ready anyway.

jura2 Mon 15-Jan-18 22:35:16

Maggiemaybe- I do not 'object' to the media attention as such - I expect fair reporting of other groups too.

No mobs so far- just a few idiots popping up here and where. But yes, I am concerned that people like Farage and others- are getting ready to stir trouble - by manipulating those who will be very angry if Brexit does not happen, or in a very soft form. Because many people are angry and dejected- for all sorts of reason- and Brexit has wrongly become the focus for that anger and dejection. It has happened before, here and elsewhere.

Deedaa Mon 15-Jan-18 21:56:13

Do you think it's going well so far lemongrove ? (Asking for a friend)

lemongrove Mon 15-Jan-18 21:50:49

when Brexit falls apart? Hopefully it will go well!

Bridgeit Mon 15-Jan-18 21:26:56

Of course Farrage is egging them on ,that's what he does best,happily being payed extremely well, whilst sitting back &surveying the ensuing mayhem ( no pun intended! )

Maggiemaybe Mon 15-Jan-18 21:07:40

I’m a bit confused, jura2. You talk about mobs, about how dangerous they are, yet you object to them getting media attention? confused

We’ve had demos and marches, yes - not something I like to see but we’re talking a few hundred people, and no more active I’d guess than in most other free countries. If we’d had 60,000 right wing extremists marching through our capital city, as Poland had a few short weeks ago, I could understand your being so worried.

jura2 Mon 15-Jan-18 18:48:09

Look at how demonstrations so far have gone, and how they have been reported. 1000s and 1000s of remainers peacefully demonstrate, all ages, all walks of life- and the BBC totally ignore them

A few t***s from EDL and BF turn up for anything and they make page 1 and all the News...

jura2 Mon 15-Jan-18 18:46:10

Exactly. Farage is the only one that has been threatening 'war on the streets'.

whitewave Mon 15-Jan-18 18:35:02

loopy you have zero evidence to back up that remark.

However if you do have evidence be pleased to see it.

If you have no evidence I shall assume that remark is a load of twat.

Eloethan Mon 15-Jan-18 18:23:05

I'm left wing and I certainly don't want to see any public disorder or violence - and I object to that remark.

loopyloo Mon 15-Jan-18 17:04:06

The left wing and Momentum are quite keen to take it to the streets too.

MissAdventure Mon 15-Jan-18 16:58:33

How do you know what the grans and grandpas on here are like? They're a section of society, just the same as everyone else.

Maggiemaybe Mon 15-Jan-18 16:55:50

You talk as though rants on public transport and in the street are everyday occurrences. They’re not, and I very much doubt they ever will be. Not in this country, anyway.

jura2 Mon 15-Jan-18 16:55:21

Of course, I didn't mean that we should pander to them- or change our attitude because of it.

But the grans and granpas on here are not the same as the mobs out there. Farage and others are pushing and pulling the strings- and it is of concern.

whitewave Mon 15-Jan-18 16:45:17

They have threatened war though, which isn’t very pleasant.

MaizieD Mon 15-Jan-18 16:43:12

We have a police force...

But whether it would come to violence on the street or not is hard to say. Pro-Brexit demos haven't been terribly well attended, have they?

And when we asked the question on here some months ago, 'what would you do if Brexit didn't happen?' there wasn't exactly a rush of streetfighting Grans...

jura2 Mon 15-Jan-18 15:04:35

We can mock and laugh, and also feel sorry for some of the people whose comments in TV and newspaper interviews, and rants in streets or public transport- often showing very poor level of education and understanding - but they will be dangerous- and Farage is egging them on?!