I have tried to contact HQ regarding this fora. Cant access

Ninety-nine different opinions on which is which! It would probably settle into a pattern after a while.

Why not take her post at face value without looking for a hidden agenda?

That would be because they haven't even bothered to come back and join in the discussion. Unless I have missed a post?

You may have missed the last half of my post. She could be unwell after a lot more up-and-down to the first floor than she is accustomed to. Or she could just have decided to leave the discussion to be continued and her point illustrated by the usual posters.

News and politica "are not good bedfellows."

Sorry, but I find that a very weird statement.

"British have worse diet in Europe."
"Social care crisis leaves millions living in pain."
"Sexist BBC pay."
"Charities warn of crisis as millions of people wait months for treatment."
"May bangs drum for post-Brexit trade with China."

All headlines in papers lying around - that should have gone into recycling yesterday.
How often have people on Gransnet started Good News threads? Quite easy to do.
If you don't want the political side of news discussing start a thread in Chat.
You can't start a thread in new and politics and complain that it's become political.

GG

Perhaps she considered she had stated her view and has the good grace to allow others to state theirs which may or may not be in agreement with her opinion.

Perhaps she stated her case and found some posts cemented her view about vociferous posting and she prefers to discuss matters amicably as her OP suggests and decided to let the thread run preferring not be drawn into any unneccessary unpleasantness.

Perhaps she does not feel the need to keep posting simply because she does not feel the need to, not everybody wants the last word .

Who knows? I do however hope it is not because she is ill.

"You can't start a thread in new and politics and complain that it's become political." which is exactly the OP's point. Nice to see agreement.

Except that is it news, not new (well, if the OP can be told off for using fora instead of forum, what is sauce for the goose etc.)

'new' for 'news' is a typo; 'fora' mistakenly used as the singular is a mistake. There's a world of difference.

Nit-picking, Elegran? Not like you.

I didn't pick the OP up on 'in on thread'. I thought that would be silly.

You're right. It is.

It wasn't her point, by the way.
She said that NEWS and POLITICS don't make good bedfellows.
Of course they do.
Quite often I write "Here's some good news" on a political thread.

The nits are not mine.

If you don't want the political side of news discussing start a thread in Chat.

I've just seen that a thread in House & Home quickly became hijacked by political comments.

Don't you think the cost of housing is political?

Good news on the NHS thread.

If any GNetter was to suggest that political comments were to be banned from all other forums other than "News and Politics", I doubt whether any forums would survive. Politics is about life. I can hardly imagine any subject which cannot possibly have a political dimension.

That would be fine, if political discussions didn't mean people told they're "sneering". If personal comments weren't made, if members weren't pressed constantly to explain this or that to other members.
It seems to be how every political thread ends up, which means nobody wants to venture to make a comment. I don't see why that should be allowed into every other thread. Frankly, its tedious.

If personal comments weren't made
Agreed (even though I know I'm guilty if pushed..)

...if members weren't pressed constantly to explain this or that to other members.

Now, that's the interesting one. I like to know why people have the opinions that they do. There's not always any need to argue with them about them; it's possible that an explanation of 'why' may enable other posters to see things in a different light. Or are we just going to accept that our thinking is set in stone and can never change?

I totally agree with you MissA about sneering and personal attacks but what has happened in the last two years since the EU referendum campaign seems to have created such deep divisions that folk on either side of the argument have clung to their position with a passion to the extent that any factual statement relating to which type of people voted which way is interpreted as a personal attack.

In response to the research finding that Leave voters tended to be less well educated, we got an irate poster proclaiming "I voted Leave and I've got a double first from Cambridge" as if the disproved the statistical evidence.

No, there is nothing wrong at all with discussing why people hold the opinions they do. It wouldn't be a discussion otherwise. I do object to being told I have a 'sad life' though, the first time I post on a thread. Even this one, the op "hasn't bothered" to come back to. What's the necessity for that comment? What has it to do with whether news and politics should be separated?

I understand that, Varian, but not everyone uses gransnet for verbal jousting. I see very, very many personal comments, particularly on the political threads. Fine, if you are robust enough to enjoy, tolerate, or give as good as you get. Not everybody wants to though.

Agree wholeheartedly with your post MissA. I take issue with where it's becoming apparent that a poster is deliberately baiting and hounding another by demanding more information, or demanding that they explain themselves further and further. But when a posters family members are dragged into it too, that's cheap bullying and below the belt.

Yes, its unpleasant to witness. That is why some don't feel comfortable with it happening in every thread.
Its also quite uncomfortable to see people commenting on somebody's spelling. No buttons are being pushed, because the op 'hasn't bothered' to come back to the thread.
Anyway, that's my two pennys worth.

Perhaps jollyg has not come back for any number of reasons. We don't know, it happens.

However, I do take the point about the political threads - even if one posts something innocuous or even friendly, it is often met with a very snippy remark from another poster just because they they disagree with something you may have posted previously.

I'm very uncomfortable with some posters picking up on other posters spelling or grammatical errors. There is absolutely no need to do that, no-one is perfect. It's so easy to hide behind anonymity.
It's the content of the original post, which should be discussed, not an attack on a poster's use of language.
Having met jollyg, who kindly gave the use of her home for the Burns meet up, I do hope that she is not unwell.

Substitute religion for politics, and how many would post if they knew they would get a hellfire sermon in return?