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So - what is Farage up to now ?!?

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jura2 Sun 21-Jan-18 17:12:31

any thoughts?

jura2 Tue 20-Feb-18 11:32:39

Oh dear, I am gutted, I failed totally (pheeew woohoo)

durhamjen Mon 19-Feb-18 19:58:53

Do you have the potential to lead Ukip?

newsthump.com/2018/02/19/are-you-a-potential-ukip-leader-take-our-interactive-quiz-to-find-out/

durhamjen Sun 18-Feb-18 23:54:57

That's who the link was about, Ginny.

Ginny42 Sun 18-Feb-18 23:35:54

Batten picks up the baton.

I see London MEP Gerard Batten has taken over as acting head of UKIP after Henry Bolton was ousted.

durhamjen Sun 18-Feb-18 22:56:58

I wonder how many of them are in the freemasons.

durhamjen Sun 18-Feb-18 22:56:26

If only that was all it was, GracesGran.
I wonder how many spies we have here meeting up with other spy groups.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 18-Feb-18 22:26:32

I had to laugh at the link you posted Jen. "Acting UKIP leader defends saying 12046816". I always understood that the BBC used to broadcast lists of numbers that gave instructions to our spies in other countries during the cold war. Perhaps, in the past, those now running UKIP joined up with the other "spies" the MSN has been trying to convince us of.grin

Ginny42 Sun 18-Feb-18 21:49:44

So that's what our licence money is funding. I had no idea either. Thank's for the link Varian. sad angry

jura2 Sun 18-Feb-18 16:38:49

Thanks varian- had no idea sad

durhamjen Sun 18-Feb-18 16:14:04

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/acting-ukip-leader-defends-saying-12046816

Ukip barrel scraping again.

Jalima1108 Sun 18-Feb-18 15:53:31

Oh!!

varian Sun 18-Feb-18 15:51:37

I think some of us grannies still trust the BBC to be the way it was when we were little and it was run by Lord Reith. In fact these days programmes are often produced by companies with an entirely different remit, like the Tinoplis Group which produces Question Time. How do we know whether they have apolitical agenda?

"The Tinopolis Group is an international media producer and distributor. In the USA we produce television programmes for all the top networks and in the UK we are one of the largest independent television suppliers to major broadcasters. We work in all genres - factual, entertainment, sport, drama, reality and digital media. Our programmes are seen across the world and through our distribution company, Passion Distribution, we have a significant presence in the global media marketplace."

www.mentorn.tv/about/

Jalima1108 Sun 18-Feb-18 15:35:59

I have no idea how the power-that-be at the BBC think any more.

whitewave Sun 18-Feb-18 15:35:14

jalima but not 25% of the total vote. But it is all about balance surely, not about votes. Isn’t that essential for a public broadcasting body?

Jalima1108 Sun 18-Feb-18 15:25:21

Perhaps he's cheap to hire?

jura2 Sun 18-Feb-18 13:31:19

So would the Greens Jalima - have a look at how often they are invited compared to UKIP?

MaizieD Sun 18-Feb-18 13:22:29

The whole blog is interesting, Dr. North has been campaigning to leave the EU for decades and has been writing a daily blog for years. He is absolutely furious at the cock up that's being made of Brexit. His readers/commenters are an interesting mix of Leavers and Remainers and the BTL discussions are very civilised on the whole.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 18-Feb-18 13:17:30

Really interesting piece Maizie.

Jalima1108 Sun 18-Feb-18 11:27:33

Why does this odious man still have a voice
I think it's called democracy.

jura
I was in fact responding to Tegan who merely asked why Farage still had a voice and was not asking why he was allowed to use it so often on television.

Now, of course, you have informed me of the number of times he has appeared on QT, it would appear that it is disproportionate to the number of MPs that UKIP had, although, of course, the number of MPs that UKIP had was not in proportion to the number of votes they received. Had we had proportional representation there would have been far more UKIP MPs.

whitewave Sun 18-Feb-18 10:34:17

Two good posts from maize and jura

jura2 Sun 18-Feb-18 10:27:41

Ukip appeared on almost one in four of the BBC’s flagship Question Time programmes in the past seven years - despite never having more than two MPs.

Huff Post UK analysis of the the 258 regular Question Time shows since May 6 2010 shows the anti-EU party had a representative on 24% of the programmes.

The Greens, who unlike Ukip have had an MP consistently in the last seven years, only appeared on 7% of the shows.

Green Party co-leader Jonathan Bartley today called on all broadcasters to give Ukip less coverage, especially now its only MP has quit.

Bartley said: “Now that Ukip have no representation in the House of Commons they should certainly expect less television coverage.

“For too long now they’ve been given a disproportionate amount of airtime and I fully expect the broadcasters to review the amount of time they give what is essentially an extra-parliamentary pressure group.

Democracy should represent the make-up of the country- and the BBC as official channel, even more so.

Great post Maizie, thanks.

MaizieD Sun 18-Feb-18 10:22:36

To revert to fascism (seeing as my comments on this were mightily pooh poohed earlier in this thread). I'm not the only person in the world who thinks that the UK is moving dangerously towards it. Reading Richard North's excellent 'EU Referendum' blog item for today I thought this comment on it struck a chord:

Now I'm certainly not a leftie in any way but the farageist approach to the referendum and to a lesser extent Johnson and gove's approach is straight out of the fascist play book. This is to get people into an emotional tumult through promoting fear of the "other" and then pivot on this confused tribalism to promote their true agenda which is the one Richard has described today. A referendum is particularly vulnerable in these circumstances especially with an electorate who are more used to representative democracy

These guys are not even fascist in the true sense, but their methods have been and it's been this that's led to the unprecedented polarisation that we've seen since the referendum

This polarisation is not an unfortunate side effect of the referendum campaign - it is actually a consciously used tactic to drive through the agenda. The ultra coalition have since used attacks against enemies within such as remainers, judges, mp's, the House of lords, fifth columnists in the civil service to sustain the tribalism, keep things off balance and continue to push through their agenda which is weakening (not that it was very strong or capable) the democratic safeguards in the system.

At the moment the safeguards are just about holding and they don't have a free run. But it is this trajectory that worries and animates a lot of remainers like myself and it is also this trajectory that is the enemy of a rational and democratic brexit as supported by the people I encounter on here.

Blog is here and the discussion of fascism is the first item in the comments section:

www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86775

jura2 Sun 18-Feb-18 09:40:26

Jalima 'I think it's called democracy.'

...do you think 'democracy' should make Farage the joint second panellist on a political debate programme? How Democratic is it to have him again and again? I believe 42nd time ?

GracesGranMK2 Sun 18-Feb-18 09:19:50

I wonder just how many people are actually interested in what Nigel Farage is up to now.

maryeliza54 Sun 18-Feb-18 09:13:10

Sorry - yes it’s on Sunday mornings but at the moment JRM is filling that slot.