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Maybot’s lack of self belief, alarms Tory members

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whitewave Wed 24-Jan-18 12:17:31

Continuity of previous thread.

It is interesting to know that the Tories have chosen the environment as one of the focuses in order to try and tackle the young vote.

This morning I read that this failing government (shades of Trumpgrin is refusing to sign up to the EUs plan to tackle plastic waste.

A prime example f this government shooting itself in the foot on a number of levels.

whitewave Wed 21-Feb-18 19:25:41

Does this look like a government to be trusted with the economy?
mobile.twitter.com/FraserNelson/status/966280839469436929/photo/1

durhamjen Wed 21-Feb-18 23:06:40

I thought Fraser Nelson was a friend of Tories.

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/21/uk-minister-rebuffs-calls-to-make-tax-havens-reveal-company-owners

This is depressing.
I thought May wanted the UK to be more open about tax.
That's why they want out of the EU, because the EU are bringing in beneficial ownership rules.

durhamjen Wed 21-Feb-18 23:27:02

And this. Hard to believe, except with this government.

www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/21/charles-randell-new-fca-chair-despite-tax-avoidance-admission

durhamjen Wed 21-Feb-18 23:31:51

Other figures being massaged.

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/21/nhs-deficit-and-staff-shortage-data-held-up-by-government

whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 09:12:33

A little something to help the “away day”
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durhamjen Thu 22-Feb-18 09:33:42

Interesting sorting that out, whitewave.
I think it's time for May to call another election and hope Corbyn wins.

whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 10:37:56

They are trying too hard I think! Had a grin over this
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whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 10:41:37

Loved this tweet from Dave Penman

“My thoughts and best wishes are with the cabinet ministers today. Compulsory ice-breakers, lukewarm coffee, and that awkward moment when Johnson suggests a dip in the pool before dinner”

Not too far away from the truth

Bridgeit Thu 22-Feb-18 10:56:46

I haven’t read all the comments,but just going by the title, isn’t the opposite true? As in she IS doing things her way,which is what others don’t like, surely that equals self belief or of course some might say self deluded.

whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 11:41:51

Tories economy going well isn’t it?
mobile.twitter.com/Open_Britain/status/966627098583543811/photo/1

whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 15:57:59

May has abandoned a vote next month on Customs and Trades bill, -she fears defeat.

I wonder how long this kicking the can down the road can go on?

whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 16:05:58

The government has made dubious history for being taken to court 3 Times and being found that it acted unlawfully 3 Times for the same crime of repeatedly allowing air quality to fall below the legally accepted limit, and being responsible for over 40000 deaths every year.

Over to you Gove!!

whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 17:14:00

I know the feeling and I bet Chequers is ringing with the same sentiments
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whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 18:57:37

I see Johnson is under scrutiny for his use of government offices in a private meeting without paying as he should have done.

durhamjen Thu 22-Feb-18 19:04:28

Laugh out loud when reading the Nick Timothy and Open Britain links after each other.
Do Tories still believe that capitalism needs saving?

varian Thu 22-Feb-18 19:20:43

I think Nick Timothy is now pretty discredited amongst the Tory party faithful for giving TM bad advice to call the "
strong and stable" election where she lost her majority.

whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 19:31:15

The following tabled by Soubry and one Labour will support
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durhamjen Thu 22-Feb-18 20:05:20

Just been reading this. We are no longer in the top ten of democracies.

www.independent.co.uk/indy100/article/democracy-index-economist-intelligence-unit-map-data-report-norway-democratic-united-states-8191501

Not surprising really, considering what a mockery of democracy the referendum was.

whitewave Thu 22-Feb-18 20:48:48

I didn’t realize that dj

durhamjen Thu 22-Feb-18 21:19:40

Better than the US, which is now a flawed democracy because of a serious decline in public trust.
That's not surprising either.

petra Thu 22-Feb-18 21:37:03

durhamjen
According to the link you posted @20.05 most of the countries in Europe didnt make it into the top 10

lemongrove Thu 22-Feb-18 21:44:12

So that’s alright then, phew! Petra

Bridgeit yes I agree the thread title is a misnomer, as May must have tremendous self belief to keep going in the way that she does.She has made many mistakes but running away when the going gets tough isn’t one if them unlike Cameron.

durhamjen Thu 22-Feb-18 21:52:22

Well, good heavens, petra, of course they didn't. Only ten countries can make it into the top ten, and there are more than 20 European countries.
However, seven of the top ten were European, but it didn't include the UK.

"The report identifies three main threats to freedom of expression: (1) Limits exercised by states and governments in the form of outright censorship and persecution, defamation laws, prevention of terrorism laws, blasphemy and hate speech; (2) threats from non-state actors through intimidation, threats, violence and murder; (3) finally threats originating from those who insist on their right “not to be offended” which has led to the emergence of self-censorship, conformity, “safe spaces”, trigger warnings, tabloid newspaper bans and policing of the internet which can be used to “silence a wide range of political views”, as the report claims.

The report argues that more and more of the population are becoming disappointed and are losing trust in the functioning of democracy and public institutions. The UK’s Brexit referendum in June 2016 and the election of Donald Trump in the US are a materialisation of this, considered to be “expressions of deep popular dissatisfaction with the status quo and of a hankering for change”. "

durhamjen Thu 22-Feb-18 21:54:08

Tremendous self-belief= pig headedness.
She's only there because nobody else wants the job still.

durhamjen Thu 22-Feb-18 22:01:24

Libdems have an open letter for anyone who wants to sign it asking May not to sell out the NHS, human rights, food, etc.
You'll find it on their website.