Maybot’s lack of self belief, alarms Tory members

Perhaps those who think the title is a misnomer ought to at least have read the first page.

shes only there because nobody else wants the job
Then why was there a vote for the job? That was a bit pointless then if nobody else wanted it

There wasn't.
There were a few candidates whittled down to two, who were supposed to be voted on by the membership. Leadsom backed out, so there was no vote. Boris backed out, earlier, so there was no real vote.
How can you pretend that was a vote for the job?

Disgraceful!!

More elderly die of cold in the U.K. then anywhere else in Europe.

What a shameful thing to be saddled with

May spent time with Tessa Jewel at Tessa’s Home - that was a good thing to do.

May the force be with you Tessa!!

Just been reading this. We are no longer in the top ten of democracies.

So Corbyns threat to the press, saying they should be worried about a Labour government would take us even further down the rankings?

How does that follow, primrose?
Corbyn was not threatening the freedom of the press, but that of the press barons to use our media but not pay our taxes.
That seems more democratic to me.

What an extraordinary statement primrose

I have just posted on another thread

Roosevelt stated “judge me by the enemies I make”
He then went on to tackle the press barons and super rich.

I think that is exactly what Corbyn will do. Plurality of the media is always a sign of a mature democracy.
This is not the case in the U.K. at the present time.

Corbyn absolutely was threatening freedom of the press.
He didn't like what they had printed because he said so and he threatened them. It shows what an authoritarian he really is.
The tax was just smoke and mirrors. He didn't attack Facebook when he listed his targets of media companies who don't pay tax. I would guess that if their tax framework was less avoiding, it would benefit the treasury more than all the papers combined. That's indicative of an ideological opposition to certain elements of the press, not the tax arrangements.
Guardian Media Group used a shell Cayman company to avoid tax when they sold Auto Trader. Not on Corbyns hit list.

It would be better if politicians didn't threaten the freedom of the press. That seems more democratic to me.

If any of the media had posted lies about me, particularly lies which may stick and change the GE, then I think he has no alternative but to threaten to sue. He would have been abrogating his duty if he did not.

If that is your idea of authoritarian

Press freedom isn’t being threatened, but plurality and balance is being promised and I for one would welcome it with open arms.

Of course tax avoidance by these owners should be scrutinised and stopped. Particularly when they have so much influence. It is totally undemocratic.

So you think the press should be free to print lies about anyone, do you, primrose?

How can we possibly support "press freedom" when more than 80% of our national press is owned either by foreign billionaires or tax exiles, all of whom support an ultra-right wing agenda aimed at making the ultra-rich richer at the expense of everyone else?

In ancient Rome they talked about "beer and circuses" as ways of controlling the plebs. These days it is done with a diet of celebs, soft porn, sports, gossip and tittle tattle interspersed with poisonous political distortions. Sadly the plebs keep falling for it and it is endangering our democracy.

Agree varian

Well said, varian.

May is going to be wishing she hadn't plugged her away day as the answer to Brexit. She is going to have to make another u-turn if she wants to keep her rebels on board.

infacts.org/mps-eu-will-squish-new-cabinet-fudge/

skwawkbox.org/2018/02/23/murdoch-and-fawkes-huge-own-goal-as-try-to-prolong-debunked-czech-smear/

Is this the sort of press freedom we want, where the Times can carry on trying to smear Corbyn even though all the proof is the other way?

I think Primrose has spent too much time in the comforting echo chamber of the anti-Corbyn threads.

So you think the press should be free to print lies about anyone, do you, primrose?

That's what the law is for.

There's a difference between freedom of the press varian and quality of the press. I don't disagree at all with your view that the vast majority of what's in the press is the equivalent of 'beer and circuses'. But sadly, that's what sells. I would prefer it if more people were prepared to pay for good quality journalism and it was widely available, but I cannot see that happening.

About Yarl's Wood.
The press didn't turn up.

detainedvoices.com/

Jen, I really object to links to skwawkbox as you know. Mike Sivier was suspended by the Labour Party for a range of anti-semitism comments and you are promoting him by posting links to his work so regularly here.

I find supporting anti-Semites offensive.

For those who don't like links.

"She managed to see us. Diane Abbott the shadow home secretary was here this morning.
Posted by DV

She managed to see us. Diane Abbott the shadow home secretary was here this morning with her entourage. One of them was Shami Chakrabarti, the human rights lawyer.

We, as a group of people who are detained here and are on hunger strike, we wanted to show the management here that we wanted to see her. In case they wanted to stop us, we went down to the reception corridor. We wanted to stop them showing her the better places and stopping our grievances being heard.

I was the first person to say what was happening about me because I was at the front of the group.

We had to go into the sports hall because there was no space where we were. The poor woman had a chance to talk to us all, one by one to hear our stories. She had, to sit down and listen to our grievances of most us, even though she didn’t have enough time for everyone. Even though she was there for 15 minutes, she managed to hear each and every one’s story. Which is what we want- we want people to hear our cry.

We were really crying to her. Even herself she was emotional as well to see us in that state. If you see someone crying if makes you emotional too. Because so many people wanted to talk to her about their experience here. When we saw her, we had all wanted to see her. She was Someone we had always wanted to see.

Her secretary was saying that there was not enough time to hear from everyone and she said we should write our stories and concerns, put it in an envelope or send it through emails. So far, we are happy that at least there are a lot of people are supporting us.

Oh my god, there were people who were crying. People who were detained for 10 months 12 months 14 months. We spoke about how we are not allowed to work outside. But when we came here they want to employ us for £1 per hour for 3 hours in a day. She heard us. If that they can employ us here, why can’t they let us work out there and contribute to the country? Especially those who have lived here for so long.

What we want is for her to go to talk to those people who are in power. To take action and deal with our situation here.

We are women, we have a life. We need to work. Our children came to the UK when they when they were young and now they are being detained. Everything here is depressing.

I want to say to Diane Abbott that we have been waiting for that moment. That she was indeed a shoulder, the only shoulder we have, to cry on. They should act on all the demands we have made. They are all critical. And, please, even if they will not meet all of our concerns, make sure the young people and people who have no lives elsewhere are not detained. The young people are the future of Britain, why do they want to detain them?

They should never call us illegal immigrants – we are undocumented migrants – I can’t wait for it to end, my daughter can’t wait.

Last night a lot of us on the wing we watched question time. There was this lady, Ash Sarkar, who said ‘why do you detain women who are pregnant and vulnerable women and women with health issues and refugees who have cases that have still pending and have rights of appeal in Yarl’s Wood’. And the man, who was part of the government said, they don’t detain such people as asylum seekers. That is a bloody lie. That was a lie from the pit of hell. How can you say that you only detain illegal immigrants who you are about to deport, but then you release them and then you redetain them over again and cause trauma to them for obeying your rules to go and report?

When I saw that, I felt that something is happening out there. And maybe certain action might be taken concerning our grievances and our cry."

Mike Sivier is not skwawkbox.
You should really get your facts right, just like the right-wing newspapers should.
Otherwise you are guilty of disseminating false information, just like them.

Primrose, I object to you supporting news proprietors who live in tax havens and do not pay their taxes here.

Jen, you're right. He's Steve Walker. Apologies.
They were slapped for spreading fake news, if I remember correctly? Videos showing full supermarkets in Venezuela, saying the stories of hunger there were rubbish? And lies about benefit claimants too.
That's swawkbox isn't it?
The antisemites that you link to are voxpolitical.
My mistake.

I don't support any news proprietors and I don't know what I've said that would make you think that I do.

www.politics.co.uk/news/2018/02/22/daily-mail-s-migrant-cleaners-preparing-to-strike-for-better

Good.

"He ranked fourth in the Publishing, Advertising, and PR section of the Sunday Times Rich List 2013 with an estimated wealth of £720 million.[6] In April 2015, the Sunday Times estimated his net worth at £1 billion[7] He has non-domicile tax status and owns his media businesses through a complex structure of offshore holdings and trusts.[8]"

Owner of the Daily Fail.