The President's Club Annual Gala - "Men Behaving Badly"

Oppression is oppression is oppression. Whether its by a patriarchal society, or "feminists" deciding what is and isn't appropriate for others.

If you really can't see why "they have felt the need to stop the brolly dollies in formula 1" gillybob - there seems no point in anyone trying to elaborate on issues around the objectification of women, the need for greater equality and respect between the sexes, the fact that women and men can and do behave badly towards each other.

Sorry gillybob my post was being written whilst you were writing about your husband's experiences. That's the point isn't it - that kind of behaviour is unpleasant to say the least and could damage the more vulnerable amongst us.

How is there equality in one group of women causing another group of women to,lose their jobs. So easy for women for who have had a good education to tell girls to get an education, or do a decent job like cleaning or stacking shelves.

I think this is more to do with some feminists disapproving of their sisters using their looks and figure instead of their brain.

I think your last paragraph might hit the nail in the head Anniebach

Could it be based on jealousy that some women seem use against each other . Someone saying “ I wouldn’t lower myself “ when infact you are plain and dumpy so they wouldn’t want you anyway

On the head not in !

My local radio is currently playing “Hot Stuff”
By Donna Summer . How very appropriate. Taken from the film The Full Monty which was very degrading towards men and should be banned .

I’m wondering if certain extreme feminists won’t be happy until our granddaughters are all wearing the Burka .

Gilly, there are three women a week murdered in domestic abuse but a girl wearing skimpy clothes and perhaps a man touching their bottom causes more anger . I want equality for women but this means accepting some women choose to make a living wearing skimpy clothes and serving drinks .

Equality means equality among women as well as between women and men.

I agree with you Annie I’m listening to a radio phone in with a ( now sacked) darts walk on lady. Very interesting . I just wish women would leave other women to do what they choose to do .

I’m wondering if certain extreme feminists won’t be happy until our granddaughters are all wearing the Burka.

I think that 'extreme feminists' are wanting a world where women can feel free to wear skimpy clothes without it being interpreted as licence for men to touch their bottoms.

I think that's any normal thinking persons hope. Extreme feminists want to decide on behalf of other women what is and isn't appropriate.

The point is not about the girls doing these jobs , they have every right to & good luck to them especially if it pays well.
The point is does that mean they have to accept being touched/groped by anyone unless they have given their permission.
If the terms of employment were that they should expect to be fondled during the course of their work shift, then there is no problem .

No extreme feminists want women in burkhas. No extreme feminists want anyoneto lose their jobs. But if the job is allowing men to touch and fondle you at will then that needs to be clearly expressed when the women are recruited. As for women parading at darts meetings well why not have men as well? It will of course be men sacking women using any excuse they can.
Annie the women who campaign for equality are always the voices who cry out against violence against women. You bringing women being murdered into such a discussion shows how unfeeling you are and how low you will sink.

I beg to differ re the burka trisher However I agree that dressing in skimpy clothes is not a license for men to touch. They are used as teasers .... look at what you could have . But don’t you dare touch .

I agree with missadventure

Some women who started as darts dollies, formula 1 brolly dollies etc. have gone on to have very lucrative modelling careers.

trisher I don’t think that was a fair comment to Annie at all . When I think she was saying that a women suffering severe domestic abuse / being murdered even, seems to cause less of an uproar than some women dressing up in skimpy sexy clothes in order to tease money out of rich men.

The reporters could not take photos as all the girls had their phones taken off them and locked away when they arrived so they could not take photos.
Why don't you actually read some of the links before you write such stuff?

Why did that feminist think she had the right to tell the girl who has lost her job with Formula 1 to get an education,

Yes tell men they do not have the right to touch a woman's bum and tell arrogant feminists they do not have the right to tell another woman her chosen job was wrong and to get an education.

Posters can post the definition of hysteria according to Freud, I still say this is mass hysteria . This is all based on one reporters claims and to compare this with the fight in the fifties for women to have her name on a rent book , to buy on HP without the signature of a man .

Does anyone know if now, when a woman chooses to have a sterilisation op her husband has to sign his consent?

Katie Price has done very well, thank you! Like or loathe her, and what she stands for, she has built up a huge business for herself. For herself..

Then do explain dj how the FT times reporter showed A video clip of the event ?

Expect Katie Price gives some an attack of the vapours and they want to tell her to get an education or go find a cleaning job, plenty of professional woman want cleaners

Gillybob, what I think is appalling is to say that people who care about this do not care about women being killed by their partners. Can we not do both?
As you were obviously listening to Radio Newcastle, it will not surprise you to know I agree with the first woman who spoke about all the girls who go to Formula 1, etc. They should aspire to being the drivers, not draping themselves over the car bonnets.
Bernie Ecclestone's son in law was at that party, by the way.

Exactly Missdventure and she started as a brolly dolly for formula 1 .

A Funny ( old guy) caller on the radio this morning said “ Some of these women only do it in order to marry a rich formula 1 driver” needless to say he was shot down in flames !

It wasn't on her phone, Annie. She was walking about working, so couldn't stop and take still photos. That would look suspicious, wouldn't it?

Yes it was Radio Newcastle “radio station for the North East” dj .

The reason women aren’t represented in motor racing ( and believe me I know what I’m talking about) is that they are simply not good enough. Yes there was one or 2 who got a sympathy sponsored drive but they were totally crap .