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So much for rehabilitation

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Smileless2012 Wed 07-Feb-18 19:18:15

So Vennebles has been sentenced to 3 years for breaking the terms and conditions of his release and being found in possession of some vile child pornography. This is his second arrest since his release.

How many of us are dreading the day, some time in the future of turning on the news and hearing that he's been arrested and charged with the murder of another poor little innocent.

Surely the reason criminals are sent to prison is to punish them for their crimes so shouldn't rehabilitation be secondary to that?

The authorities emphasised the terms and conditions attached to their release together with the belief that they no longer posed a thread, to quash the public out cry their release produced.

3 years IMO is a disgrace, 30 wouldn't be enough.

MissAdventure Thu 08-Feb-18 10:49:55

Yes, you're right, Minerva.
Its difficult to know what's right for a case like this.

Nonnie Thu 08-Feb-18 10:51:02

I heard on the radio yesterday, on the subject of the taxi driver who assaulted so many women, the suggestion of chemical castration. I had never heard of it but is it something that should be considered for serial abusers? The speaker said that it was something the public would not be told had been done but why not? Surely it would bring some feeling of security for those worried about the release of some people. Are there people so badly damaged that this is the only answer?

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Feb-18 11:48:38

You mean like was done to Alan Turing?

GracesGranMK2 Thu 08-Feb-18 11:57:12

Sexual attack is about power not sex. Above and beyond the fact that I would find something like so called chemical castration very worrying - do we next go for euthanasia for all the mentally disabled? - I don't see why it would work. If you want to have power over women you don't need you own penis to do it and I would have thought the resentment about the treatment might well lead to far worse treatment of women.

Anniebach Thu 08-Feb-18 12:10:25

Too dangerous to consider, castrate those with low I.Q,s , with disabilities , how many innocent people would be included ? The world has had one Hitler

Oldwoman70 Thu 08-Feb-18 12:30:06

As I understand it (although I am open to being corrected) chemical castration is done on a voluntary basis and involves the offender continuing to take pills or injections for life. I can't see how it would work with someone who is such a prolific offender as the taxi driver. Like others I am also concerned who else it would be considered OK to "treat" this way.

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Feb-18 12:48:53

There’s varying practices - in some countries if they agree to it, they spend less time in prison. The drugs have well known side effects as well and there must be an interesting medical ethics debate about the prescribing of medication in circumstances like this - similar to the debate about administering lethal injections in prison. I can’t see this being accepted here - but who knows? I expect there’ll be an online petition soon to support it

GracesGranMK2 Thu 08-Feb-18 12:52:06

My concern is not just what it could lead to - although that is indeed very concerning. It could be completely ineffective but that decisions could be made to release someone into the community based on them having received the treatment. This, to me, is more of a mental health problem that led to a criminal one than just a crime.

I do wonder just how voluntary it is OW, when you are in prison and this may be a way out.

OldMeg Thu 08-Feb-18 13:54:02

GG2 I don’t agree that sexual attacks are always about power. There is evidence that this is a very complex area and, while power might well be behind a proportion of such acts, there are other causes and reasons worth consideration.

bestrehab Mon 27-Jul-20 05:44:51

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Lucca Mon 27-Jul-20 06:49:30

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