Jeremy Paxman says 'no votes for pensioners'

Sorry Rocknroll have to disagree with you. The most educated person I know (scientist who has worked with NASA) shouldn't be allowed out on his own! The least educated man I know (left school at 15) has much more experience of life and I would trust his opinion above many people. As someone once said common sense doesn't come with a degree

The less educated voted leave.
Paxman wouldn’t dare say ‘the less educated should not have the vote’ though that is what he means. Only about 5% of Over 65’s were educated to degree level. 45% of the youngest demographic are. Then that brings in the whole class debate because education is not relatable to natural intelligence. But in something as important as this referendum education did matter.

"In January 2013, the British Prime Minister, David Cameron, committed the Conservative Party to a referendum before the end of 2017 on UK membership of the EU if they won the 2015 general election. Legislation for an in/out EU referendum was approved by the House of Commons in November 2013. Studies showed some divergence in attitudes to the EU in Scotland and the rest of the UK. Although a Scottish government review based on survey data between 1999 and 2005 found that people in Scotland reported "broadly similar Eurosceptic views as people in Britain as a whole", Ipsos MORI noted in February 2013 that voters in Scotland said they would choose to remain in the EU in a referendum, while there was a majority for withdrawal in England."

This was before the Scottish vote.

Who is he kidding.
Himself MawBroon, and perhaps he's trying to please his young girlfriend and pretend he's one of 'da yoof'.

Of course they lied. They had no idea what would happen at a UK referendum and they knew that was likely to happen soon. I did say that English parties lied, not just the Tories. Perhaps you ought to read more carefully.

No they didn't, this was before the referendum and was said in good faith at that time by all three parties, not just the conservatives. The unexpected referendum result of course changed all that. Politicians, for once didn't lie, they were over ruled by events! But of course you know that dj!

No, they didn’t lie at all. That was the true situation at that time, if Scotland had broken away from the Union then the EU wouldn’t have wanted them.Just as the situation in Spain could have worked out.

It was the English parties who told the Scots that the only way they had of remaining in the EU was to vote to remain part of the UK, was it not?
They lied.

No I didn't! I just felt so angry at England ALWAYS being portrayed as the big bad wolf! I know we're not perfect, but surely, not a dictatorship!!! Actually I think the breakup of the union would be a tragedy for all of us particularly Scotland and personally I'd be very sad to see you go.

Nigglynellie you didn’t offend me. But I hope you didn’t mean what you said about a second “indyref” - heaven (or whoever you believe in) forbid!

Well said lemongrove.

Paddyann can only speak for herself, she does not have the backing of all of Scotland, in fact a lot of Scots have said no to the SNP and their dream of a break from the Union.
Considering how foul her comments are about England it’s amazing how little anyone says to her , which no doubt shows a high level of tolerance from all us ‘Little Englanders’ both on this thread and many others.

I know Paddyann does not speak for a every one in Scotland, and I know that I am being disingenuous in rising to her comments. Apologies to any I may have offended.

paddyann

What do you call the voters in Wales who voted Leave?

I am quite surprised how many posters agree with Paxman and would therefore be content to forfeit their right to vote at 65.

I would fight to keep my democratic vote.

A very experienced teacher gave us newcomers good advice which I've never forgotten. Clearly it applies here to those with very entrenched opinions.
'Some people have many years of experience but others have the same experience repeated over many years.'
Being older does not necessarily make you wiser.

Just to put the record straight - paddyann does not speak for all of Scotland.
I voted Remain as did everyone in my family. I voted No Thanks, as did everyone in my family, as did 55% of the Scottish population. That is a fact and, as a result of that fact, Scotland is part of the UK which, disastrously in my opinion, voted for Brexit.
We do not all think of the English as “little Englanders” and resent them for “dragging” us out of Europe.
paddyann I hope you don’t come to regret the words “hell mend them” if you live to see an independent Scotland.

So that rules him out (at 68 this year)
One thing I really hate is people disparaging their own generation no doubt to appear “cool” and “down with da yoof “
Who is he kidding.

So that means that the UK affords resident EU nationals the same voting rights as other EU countries affords to other resident EU nationals. What is the argument for changing this in the UK?

Thank you, Fennel That is what I took out of the stuff I found - local but not national.

As you say, it is difficult to find out, but I get the impression that it is not usual for people living and working in another EU country to be able to vote unless they have a passport as a citizen of that country. I don't see that the admin of would be easy or even that it would be desirable without reciprocity.
There is an interesting organisation which pairs individuals living in one another's countries and agreeing to use their ex-pat votes as the other would do if they could. citizensforeurope.org/projects-activities/project-archive/vote-exchange/

"Do Britons living and working in other EU countries vote in elections held in those countries?"
In France we can vote in the communal ie village elections but not the regional or national elections.

One reference in 2005 - "It is important to underline that in nearly all European states, as well as in non-European democracies, full electoral rights are reserved for the countries’ nationals, even though some of them have enfranchised aliens at the local level." ( note - The United Kingdom is exceptional in this regard since it extends active voting rights as well as eligibility in national elections to all Commonwealth and Irish citizens. ) Political participation, mobilisation and representation of Immigrants and their offspring in Europe. Willy Brandt Series of Working Papers in International Migration and Ethnic Relations 1/05 Published 2005

It's not easy to find out Elegran
Does anyone know?

If loving England confirms a point, then I unashamedly plead guilty. Other people worldwide love their countries including the Scots without any fear of sneers and jeers from others. It's only we English who are constantly on a guilt trip and denigrated for who we are. Incidentally, other countries, European ones (shock horror,) did have colonies, indulged in the slave trade, and all the other horrors that apparently only we English participated in, yes even Scotland!