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Jeremy Paxman says 'no votes for pensioners'

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LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Fri 09-Feb-18 10:34:30

Good morning!

In the Daily Mail yesterday, a story quoted Jeremy Paxman saying that pensioners had 'betrayed young people' and that, as a result, over 65s shouldn't be allowed to vote.

He also said: ‘I think that my generation have behaved like spoilt children. And, like spoilt children, our response is “it’s not my fault”. It’s never our bloody fault.

‘Actually, it is, because we have failed to recognise the consequences of our behaviour.’

Here's the full story: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5370159/Ban-spoilt-elderly-voting-says-Jeremy-Paxman.html

We'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

trisher Sat 10-Feb-18 10:52:16

Isn't it interesting that none of you have chosen to address the situation young people find themselves in but have concentrated entirely on either the Brexit issue ( that ship has sailed and we will reap the consequences) or the flippant idea that over 65s shouldn't be allowed to vote- which is actually quite funny. What it seems to prove is that actually Paxman is right and most older people are unable to appreciate what is happening now, only seeing it through rose-tinted glasses and dwelling on a past where their families struggled and life was hard, but unable to appreciate the real benefits that were there. I too grew up in a hard working family, where both my parents worked so that my brother and I could be educated. BUT I was supported through 6th form,through college and throughout my childhood by a supportive system: that rehoused our family in a 3 bedroomed house when the children were a certain age, that fed me free orange juice, vitamins and milk, that fed poorer children throughout the year (including school holidays) and that cared for everyone. There were still terrible areas of deprivation that needed help and which we were working on. Unfortunately some seem to have lost sight of the ideals that underpinned the society that formed us and become reactionary old farts.

Marianne1953 Sat 10-Feb-18 10:51:02

Perhaps we should stop the BBC employing anyone over 65.
He trying to get a reaction and it succeeded.

Coconut Sat 10-Feb-18 10:43:56

Pathetic comments from Paxman ! You cannot possibly generalise on any generation with any issue.

anitamp1 Sat 10-Feb-18 10:43:51

What a cheek he's got. We are a free and democratic country and everyone is entitled to vote, even if we as individuals disagree with the outcome. And if over 65s can't vote an awful lot of politicians would be excluded from voting!

Witzend Sat 10-Feb-18 10:40:02

Like others who for so many years have received huge BBC salaries, funded by licence payers, JP does not live in the real world.

I certainly never voted for sky high house prices, or for university tuition fees, or, for that matter, for the vast expansion of universities, so that anyone who could scrape two A level grade Es - and not always even that - could go to a low-ranking university and study a degree that could sadly probably prove pretty worthless in the job market, while still saddling them with a huge debt.
I didn't vote for Brexit, either.

I used to quite like JP on Newsnight - he was good at getting politicians who slithered around questions like oiled snakes, to answer what they'd been asked.
But that was then.

Hildagard Sat 10-Feb-18 10:30:42

Agree totally ninny we will march on Parliament

ValC Sat 10-Feb-18 10:23:31

In that case the whole of the House of Lords would be redundant and the majority of the House of Commons, Maybe it's not such a bad idea after all

vintage1950 Sat 10-Feb-18 10:23:12

Who on earth does JP think he is? I voted Remain and I'm 68 next month. University tuition fees and the scrapping of the university grant came in Tony Blair's government - and was not our fault. I thought JP was a Blairite. As for University Challenge, he can't correctly pronounce any words in a language other than his own.

TellNo1Ok Sat 10-Feb-18 10:20:18

My thoughts exactly... of all the troublemaking press we are "blessed"with the DM takes the buiscuit ...

henetha Sat 10-Feb-18 10:19:35

I used to like JP but have gone right off him now! Was he drunk at the time?
To restrict voting in any way whatsoever, with whomever,
is absolutely wrong and completely undemocratic.

Singlegrannie Sat 10-Feb-18 10:19:19

Jeremy Paxman may be selfish and not deserve a vote, but most of the pensioners I know are giving substantial help to the younger generation who would struggle to maintain their lifestyles without the considerable financial assistance and free childcare provided by our "privileged" generation.

Blinko Sat 10-Feb-18 10:17:38

I agree, AmMaz, ageism is the last ...ism that people can get away with abusing, it seems. Shameful, especially when you think of what the suffagettes went through to get the vote for every adult in the first place.

maddyone Sat 10-Feb-18 10:16:33

Lots of interesting comments on here, but I just want to say that I think restricting voting is a very dangerous road to go down, whether it was for all elections, or just for the recent referendum. To decide that a certain group have no right to vote, for whatever reason, is the stuff of nightmares to me, it’s dangerous, because it sets a precedent, who knows what the great and the good would decide to do next.

AmMaz Sat 10-Feb-18 10:02:47

The fact that JP or anybody could propose this at all and get away with it I find astonishing.
In this age of PC whereby ordinary decent people are frightened to speak lest they unwittingly commit an '-ism' it seems AGEISM is perfectly acceptable! Mind blowing.

Eileen Sat 10-Feb-18 09:57:45

Speaking in general terms, if the young didn’t bother to vote and the over 65s are not allowed to vote...... it wouldn’t take long to count the votes. Surely he should encourage the young to get involved.

Shelagh6 Sat 10-Feb-18 09:55:27

Just Paxman growing ever more childish as he grows older - a rather embittered man, obviously disappointed at how much he’s achieved (obviously stupid enough to realise he’s achieved enough)!

GracesGranMK2 Sat 10-Feb-18 09:48:53

not, not no. I haven't suddenly gained a Scottish accent just a cast of a sticky t.

sue01 Sat 10-Feb-18 09:45:23

Haha. Must be something in the water in the East Midlands Teetime - I fancy JP too !

GracesGranMK2 Sat 10-Feb-18 09:44:51

It was in the DAILY MAIL. What do you expect? The leopard does not change it's spots.

It sounds as if Jeremy Paxman is "losing it" as the current phrase goes. He's becoming more and more eccentric

Do you mean he is becoming bombastic and verbous? He would no be alone in the world of old people if that is the case.

(Just realised the word bombastic always makes me think of Henry VIII's codpiece - which is a worry - although perfectly reasonable historically)

Horatia Sat 10-Feb-18 09:43:48

I take exception to cheap housing for everyone. It took us 15 years of married life to save the deposit for our first home and we were very frugal. Cheap perhaps to those with an excellent education earning loads of money like Mr Paxton.

sue421 Sat 10-Feb-18 09:38:29

Who is Jeremy Paxman? Is he important? Do I care what he thinks?
Just words to fill space.....so full of his own self-importance

sarahellenwhitney Sat 10-Feb-18 09:36:11

What a plonker .sad He needs to ' keep taking the tablets' before he loses it completely.

lovebooks Sat 10-Feb-18 09:32:15

I am well over 65 and a total Remainer, as are all my friends and colleagues.

radicalnan Sat 10-Feb-18 09:30:15

In the week when we are celebrating the Suffragettes and the way in which they acted to get women and also men, the vote, we have another overpaid, undertalented numptie trying to overthrow democracy.

Jog on Paxman.

Cuckoo22 Sat 10-Feb-18 09:23:56

I’m saddened that anyone should suggest restricting the rights of anyone who has the right to vote and has contributed to the country in any way throughout their lives. The statistics about who voted for what aren’t proven, and anyway, as Disraeli said, “lies, damn lies and statistics”. We all know how statistics can be manipulated. Mr Paxman isn’t as clever as he thinks he is. If all the over 65’s left the country, the economy would collapse.