What a plonker .
He needs to ' keep taking the tablets' before he loses it completely.
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In the Daily Mail yesterday, a story quoted Jeremy Paxman saying that pensioners had 'betrayed young people' and that, as a result, over 65s shouldn't be allowed to vote.
He also said: ‘I think that my generation have behaved like spoilt children. And, like spoilt children, our response is “it’s not my fault”. It’s never our bloody fault.
‘Actually, it is, because we have failed to recognise the consequences of our behaviour.’
Here's the full story: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5370159/Ban-spoilt-elderly-voting-says-Jeremy-Paxman.html
We'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
What a plonker .
He needs to ' keep taking the tablets' before he loses it completely.
Who is Jeremy Paxman? Is he important? Do I care what he thinks?
Just words to fill space.....so full of his own self-importance
I take exception to cheap housing for everyone. It took us 15 years of married life to save the deposit for our first home and we were very frugal. Cheap perhaps to those with an excellent education earning loads of money like Mr Paxton.
It was in the DAILY MAIL. What do you expect? The leopard does not change it's spots.
It sounds as if Jeremy Paxman is "losing it" as the current phrase goes. He's becoming more and more eccentric
Do you mean he is becoming bombastic and verbous? He would no be alone in the world of old people if that is the case.
(Just realised the word bombastic always makes me think of Henry VIII's codpiece - which is a worry - although perfectly reasonable historically)
Haha. Must be something in the water in the East Midlands Teetime - I fancy JP too !
not, not no. I haven't suddenly gained a Scottish accent just a cast of a sticky t.
Just Paxman growing ever more childish as he grows older - a rather embittered man, obviously disappointed at how much he’s achieved (obviously stupid enough to realise he’s achieved enough)!
Speaking in general terms, if the young didn’t bother to vote and the over 65s are not allowed to vote...... it wouldn’t take long to count the votes. Surely he should encourage the young to get involved.
The fact that JP or anybody could propose this at all and get away with it I find astonishing.
In this age of PC whereby ordinary decent people are frightened to speak lest they unwittingly commit an '-ism' it seems AGEISM is perfectly acceptable! Mind blowing.
Lots of interesting comments on here, but I just want to say that I think restricting voting is a very dangerous road to go down, whether it was for all elections, or just for the recent referendum. To decide that a certain group have no right to vote, for whatever reason, is the stuff of nightmares to me, it’s dangerous, because it sets a precedent, who knows what the great and the good would decide to do next.
I agree, AmMaz, ageism is the last ...ism that people can get away with abusing, it seems. Shameful, especially when you think of what the suffagettes went through to get the vote for every adult in the first place.
Jeremy Paxman may be selfish and not deserve a vote, but most of the pensioners I know are giving substantial help to the younger generation who would struggle to maintain their lifestyles without the considerable financial assistance and free childcare provided by our "privileged" generation.
I used to like JP but have gone right off him now! Was he drunk at the time?
To restrict voting in any way whatsoever, with whomever,
is absolutely wrong and completely undemocratic.
My thoughts exactly... of all the troublemaking press we are "blessed"with the DM takes the buiscuit ...
Who on earth does JP think he is? I voted Remain and I'm 68 next month. University tuition fees and the scrapping of the university grant came in Tony Blair's government - and was not our fault. I thought JP was a Blairite. As for University Challenge, he can't correctly pronounce any words in a language other than his own.
In that case the whole of the House of Lords would be redundant and the majority of the House of Commons, Maybe it's not such a bad idea after all
Agree totally ninny we will march on Parliament
Like others who for so many years have received huge BBC salaries, funded by licence payers, JP does not live in the real world.
I certainly never voted for sky high house prices, or for university tuition fees, or, for that matter, for the vast expansion of universities, so that anyone who could scrape two A level grade Es - and not always even that - could go to a low-ranking university and study a degree that could sadly probably prove pretty worthless in the job market, while still saddling them with a huge debt.
I didn't vote for Brexit, either.
I used to quite like JP on Newsnight - he was good at getting politicians who slithered around questions like oiled snakes, to answer what they'd been asked.
But that was then.
What a cheek he's got. We are a free and democratic country and everyone is entitled to vote, even if we as individuals disagree with the outcome. And if over 65s can't vote an awful lot of politicians would be excluded from voting!
Pathetic comments from Paxman ! You cannot possibly generalise on any generation with any issue.
Perhaps we should stop the BBC employing anyone over 65.
He trying to get a reaction and it succeeded.
Isn't it interesting that none of you have chosen to address the situation young people find themselves in but have concentrated entirely on either the Brexit issue ( that ship has sailed and we will reap the consequences) or the flippant idea that over 65s shouldn't be allowed to vote- which is actually quite funny. What it seems to prove is that actually Paxman is right and most older people are unable to appreciate what is happening now, only seeing it through rose-tinted glasses and dwelling on a past where their families struggled and life was hard, but unable to appreciate the real benefits that were there. I too grew up in a hard working family, where both my parents worked so that my brother and I could be educated. BUT I was supported through 6th form,through college and throughout my childhood by a supportive system: that rehoused our family in a 3 bedroomed house when the children were a certain age, that fed me free orange juice, vitamins and milk, that fed poorer children throughout the year (including school holidays) and that cared for everyone. There were still terrible areas of deprivation that needed help and which we were working on. Unfortunately some seem to have lost sight of the ideals that underpinned the society that formed us and become reactionary old farts.
Remain campaigners very cleverly suggested that those with a degree would vote to remain, I imagine this swung a lot of naïve young voters who didn't want to appear 'unintelligent'.
We were living in France at the time of the referendum, I belonged to a club of around 100 members, 50 being British and within the 15 year eligibility to vote criteria, all pensioners. Only two of us voted to leave. Some of the remainers became downright nasty because 'we could lose our pensions and healthcare rights', others quietly admitted to voting to remain for the same reason but admitted that if they lived in the UK they would have voted to leave. I would think that most Brits abroad followed the same pattern. Take out the selfish expat vote and the leave vote percentage would be even stronger.
My rather long winded point being that many people on the remain side voted for self rather than country.
This constant attempt by remainers to pit young against old is part of the same divide and conquer tactic used by remainers as the degree and no degree suggesting intelligence and lack of it can be measured by a degree.
None of the above is well put but I have to go out for the day and want to get my two pennyworth in.
Sorry didn't address the point of the thread. We have earned our vote, we have experience of left and right governments, we have learned moderation and thought before action unlike the heady impetuousness of our youth.
Trisher, The less than favourable change in circumstance for our younger people has happened since 1973 when we joined the EU.
Do you mean he is becoming bombastic and verbous
A good choice of words Gracesgran, although the becoming could be superfluous.
I agree with lots of points in this thread - ie has he got a bok coming out, is he missing the limelight as some people cannot bear to be overlookeed and he would seem to be one of them. Yes, he is one of the privileged 'elite' and is perfectly entitled to refuse his WFA and pension. However, I think he would be better taking them and giving them to a worthy charity, perhaps one which may help old people who are living in poverty?
Didn't the Nazi regime disenfranchise Jews in 1935? Therefore has Paxman nailed his colours to the mast in suggesting a whole swathe of citizens with a wealth of experience be disenfranchised?
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