The Labour Party

Rather sad that many here wonder why I am a member of the Labour Party I think this is an exaggeration by GG , perhaps speaking for the few not the many GG ?

I think Seamus Milne is coming under a bit of pressure here too. The Press Association has named him as the Jeremy Corbyn spokesman who said that the history of the UK intelligence agencies is "problematic". That's a very unusual step.

Considering Milne's admiration for Stalin He would say that

How could anyone admire Stalin?! The suffering he inflicted on his own people and the satellite countries that were scooped up after WW2 was quite appalling. The end justifying the means?!!

Coincidence that Corbyn who speaks about the NHS every week should today remember something Hawkings said to him about the NHS,

You do realise, primrose, that that EDM says unequivocally.
That means they are blaming the Russians, even though May still says on the balance of probability.
I'd like to know how those Labour backbenchers know more about it than the government.

HAWKING, Annie. Please try and get his name right, even if you can't with others.

Nothing strange about Corbyn knowing about Hawking and the NHS.
Lots of people know that he was part of the group taking Hunt to court. I've given money to it.
If you want to see what people think of Hunt saying Hawking was one of his heroes, just look at twitter for Hunt.

This was the man that Corbyn mentioned in PMQs today.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/14/the-guardian-view-on-denying-cancer-care-unjust-and-uncaring

Coincidence that Corbyn who speaks about the NHS every week should today remember something Hawkings said to him about the NHS.

That is completely illogical Annie. You say yourself that Corbyn "speaks about the NHS every week" and, if you read about Stephen Hawkins views you would see that he was willing to use his fame to fight as much as he could too. It is, therefore, not surprising that they met and talked about it.

This was Hawkin's last piece that he wrote for the Guardian where you can see how knowledgeable he made himself on the NHS and how he was fighting for it. This is the last paragraph of the article:

The NHS is political, but not necessarily party political. I am a Labour supporter but acknowledge that privatisation increased under Labour governments in the past. The question is whether democracy can prevail and the public can make its demands for proper funding and public provision undeniable by any government.

That article shows why people are annoyed at Hunt for saying that Hawking was one of his heroes. If he was, he can make amends by giving up the court case and funding the NHS properly instead of selling it off to his privatising mates.

Then again we disagree, i think to repeat what Hawkins allegedly said to him on the day Hawkins died lacked respect, why not last week or all the previous weeks, no he chose the first day when Hawkins is no more.

Primrose

Re your post 16.10 referring to the letter of support for the government stance over the Salisbury Attack from some Labour MP's.

Having watched Theresa May give both Salisbury Incident Statements live on t.v from Parliament on Monday and Today I have to say the Labour ' back bench ' MP's performed well and it was Parliament at it's best when the subject at hand crosses over to both sides of the House in times of national security.. I did not feel the 'front bench' have done themselves many favours on either days .

So many on the labour back bench did what I expect decent MP's to do , they stood down from the front benches when Corbyn won the leadership , they placed a vote of no confidence in him , today they again put their jobs on the line to speak up for what they believe in. The very new front benchers were making sure they stayed on the front benches

Annie - just use a little imagination. Let's imagine you have a terrible disease and you know you would not have had the life you have except for the NHS. You therefore make it part of your life to fight for it to survive. You decide to fight for the NHS against the privatisation you believe is taking place. You are well known and you are able to use your position to publicise what is happening - but then J Hunt accuses you spreading “pernicious falsehoods”.

You write an article destroying what Hunt has said and, as a well known scientist you will know that Hunt is talking out of the seat of his pants and you carefully and logically explain that. Because you are thinking human being you are able to explain that what Hunt quoted you as saying was not true; it was a lie but that, in fact, the government Hunt belongs to is doing the very thing he has accused you of wanting to do.

You then decide that the NHS is so important to you and, you believe, the changes this government is making are not lawful, so you become a claimant in a court case.

Some time later, having lived an amazing life, you die. Your friends and all those who know you or have even just met you know just how much fighting for the NHS part of your life. Yours was amazing support for the cause you believed in.

So tell me Annie, why would it disrespectful to mention this? Why would it be disrespectful, when mourning your passing to quote something you had said on this subject? That's what people do when "remembering" the person who has just died. The literally remember little things that were done, things that were said that they can repeat to draw a picture of you for others.

Asking a lot, GracesGran.

inews.co.uk/news/health/stephen-hawking-tribute-jeremy-hunt-hero/

Then why not last week or all the previous weeks, why the day the man died, a tribute is what is expected , the decent thing to do . No more to say on this subject, we are speaking of the man who flaunted his close friendship with the IRA whilst Westminster was grieving.

Because the day someone dies is the day you remember what their life meant to you Annie. I just don't believe you are really not that ignorant of how society works.

"We look forward to his telling us what remit he will set for the NHS Pay Review Body in the coming days. He has had all summer to think through his response to these demands. I know that he got into a big argument with Professor Stephen Hawking, but we will leave that there. The Health Secretary sets the remit—he tells the pay review body what it is able to provide—so we look to him to tell us what he is going to ask it to provide. We want him to tell us today when he will publish the remit letter."
Last September. Jon Ashworth. Corbyn works as part of a group and allows his front bench to do what they are appointed to do. He doesn't need to do everything himself.

not

ab. I’m finding your posts about JC and SH absolutely bizarre. Your posts are actually doing what you are accusing JC of doing - distastefully using the death of a great scientist as fodder to further fuel your own political agenda - your hatred of JC. Quite frankly I think your posts should just stop stop stop using SH’s death in the way that they are. Show some respect - and don’t argue back that JC isn’t.

To be honest I just wish Hawking and Corbyn had spoken up at the time of the Mid Staffs and subsequent Fracis Report period.!

PIGs ffs - another disgraceful post - cheap cheap cheap.

Ffffffffffffffffs

Sorry POGS

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