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durhamjen Wed 21-Mar-18 09:11:18

Trump has changed his mind yet again about hunting elephants.
He thinks it is okay to hunt and take tusks for trophies.
Having heard yesterday that the white rhino is going to be extinct soon as the last male has died, it makes me wonder if the elephant will be next on the list.

secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/trump_elephant_redux_loc_sig/?bkHcnjb&signup=1&cl=14127186773&v=104121&_checksum=07698861d2252f783997099e1f94aef250a96c97c4e1809fdb38e2006ad775e3

An avaaz campaign to stop him.

whitewave Wed 21-Mar-18 09:26:21

It is beyond my ability to understand someone who looks at an animal, knowing its understanding of the world in which it lives, knowing its empathy with others of its species, knowing its magnificents and pointing a gun at it and taking away its life, not even being sure that you will not inflict suffering as it dies.

Greyduster Wed 21-Mar-18 09:40:33

Couldn’t have put it better myself, whitewave. Elephants are amazing creatures - can’t imagine a world without them, but it is on the cards if things go on the way they are.

Elegran Wed 21-Mar-18 09:54:13

DJ The southern subspecies of white rhino is doing OK, it is the northern subspecies that is already extinct in the wild and now there are not even any in captivity to try to breed them for re-introduction. rhinos.org/species/white-rhino/

Oldwoman70 Wed 21-Mar-18 09:56:55

I have never understood what pleasure anyone gets from killing an animal for "sport". I live in a rural area (although I am not a farmer) and am not sentimental about animals, I eat meat, I am in favour of controlling numbers of those animals considered as "pests". However, to kill simply for the "enjoyment" of seeing an animal fall is beyond my comprehension.

gillybob Wed 21-Mar-18 09:59:59

I have never understood what pleasure anyone gets from killing an animal for "sport"

The royals seem to think it's okay .

gillybob Wed 21-Mar-18 10:00:27

Meant to add, me neither. It's sick.

whitewave Wed 21-Mar-18 10:30:27

Has anyone been watching that little programme early evening about a spy camera.

I have come to the conclusion that we have no real idea of at what emotional level animals operate. We are guilty of heinous crimes towards animals.

nigglynellie Wed 21-Mar-18 11:17:15

President Trump is completely grim along with his odious sons, so why doesn't this latest edict coming from him surprise me?!!

Tegan2 Wed 21-Mar-18 11:20:29

Didn't he also repeal the legislation that made it illegal to kill bears when they are hibernating I do need to check that out, though....

nigglynellie Wed 21-Mar-18 11:23:39

FGS surely not?! The man's a maniac!

nigglynellie Wed 21-Mar-18 11:26:46

Have just signed the petition for the elephants - surely somebody or something can stop this ghastly man and his gruesome family!

gillybob Wed 21-Mar-18 11:30:40

If it’s true then yes the man is a maniac . Not really any worse than our own royals
( who many of us look up to ) though .

He must’ve been so proud !

Tegan2 Wed 21-Mar-18 13:38:26

Hunters in Alaska can now track and kill hibernating bears thanks to a U.S. House and Senate resolution rolling back Obama-era regulations against the practice.
President Donald Trump signed the bill into law on Monday, which rolled back Alaska’s ban on killing the vulnerable bears, along with wolf cubs in dens. It also allows for hunters to target the animals from helicopter....

Tegan2 Wed 21-Mar-18 13:39:00

...just found this, so I wasn't imagining it....

Elegran Wed 21-Mar-18 13:45:19

If someone tracked him and his family while they were sleeping and shot the lot of them the heads on the wall would make impressive trophies. Or even if they were awake.

Elegran Wed 21-Mar-18 13:46:19

Who rules the US of A? The gun lobbyists?

OldMeg Wed 21-Mar-18 14:08:48

And yesterday Sudan had to be put down 😢

OldMeg Wed 21-Mar-18 14:10:51

You are joking Elegran who’d want that head on display. At least on TV I can turn over when he comes on.

gillybob Wed 21-Mar-18 14:16:15

I wasn't sure if you were talking about The Trumps or the Royal family for a minute there Elegran and I was thinking.... blimey that's a bit harsh.

Elegran Wed 21-Mar-18 14:16:44

Could be useful for the coconut shy?

OldMeg Wed 21-Mar-18 14:21:17

Coconut shy has my vote. Pass me a cricket ball!

mimiro Wed 21-Mar-18 14:32:40

lump is an ignorant fuck.
whats with the waterbuffalo/
friends gran has one and she follows her around like a pup.
she makes cheese from the milk.

people all over the world use them for milk.meat and leather/but this is fucked.
all the years and tears to save the elephants,wolves and bears and this bull shit happens..

Elegran Wed 21-Mar-18 14:34:30

There's that other favourite of school fetes, too, where you can throw a wet sponge at a teacher's head sticking out through a hole in a screen. Not quite as satisfying as a cricket ball, though.

Telly Wed 21-Mar-18 14:38:27

whitwave - I can only agree, there are hideous crimes that are committed against animals, unbearable when you consider that many are capable of a wide range of emotions and feelings. I wonder what future generations will make of us?