Daily Mail petition to have passports made in UK

They don’t even have the passport making machines yet which makes the price even more suspicious to me .

It’s relevant because it would be easy for the French to undercut a U.K. firm if they were outsourcing to Poland where employment costs etc. are a fraction of ours .

I didn’t say you were part of any gang Gerispringer
The thing is though De La Rue have been printing our passports perfectly well for years . They developed a new security system ( hidden inside the passports ) now used worldwide .

I"m not sure of the relevance of that experience to this discussion. Will the passport making machines be a threat to health and safety? Doesn't necessarily follow but I agree we should know. We should also be told how much profit De la Rue make. It's taxpayers money at the end of the day. French companies own our electricity, gas and railways etc I don't agree with that either. DM aren't running a petition on that are they?

We were asked to quote for some work in a large Polish manufacturing facility . When DH got the drawings for some of their machines the lack of any safety was alarming to say the least. Needless to say we declined to quote .

gillybob yes I agree we should ask questions about the disparity in the the contract bids, but it should be asked of both sides surely? Not just assume the non- British one has to be nefarious and not question why the the British one so much higher.
I'm not part of any gang btw.

There should have been a "g" on the end of manufacturin!

Irrespective of Brexit, I want to keep as much manufacturin and business in the UK. And I don't care if this campaign is in the Daily Mail, the Guardian or on the back of the Beano. I've signed it because I care about British workers.

I bow to your superior knowledge then petra and is it true also that the passports will be made in Poland or is that just another untruth, deception, distortion, falsification, myth, fabrication, tall story?

petra how long ago did you live in an Eastern bloc country? I am just wondering if things have improved for the people in the intervening years and as they have needed to conform.
However I gather from another post I saw that Poland are anti abortion which the women are trying to get changed.

Pathetic jura2 but carry on, reading other posts on GN thought you bailed out on the UK years ago.

OldMeg
Take a visit there. You could be on another continent as far as rules and regulations are concerned. It's the same with the majority of eastern block countries.
That's not from the daily mail, that's from me living in one for 5 years and visiting all of them.

I thought Poland was a full member of the EU and therefore subject to all employment law and H&S regulations.......?

hear hear OldMeg- the cheek

I think you will find I’m permitted to read and contribute to any thread on GN. To suggest otherwise is against GN guidelines.

Maybe petra or maybe it’s just that in Poland they don’t have anywhere near as strict Health and Safety rules and the wages and related employment costs are a fraction of what we pay here.

gillybob
Maybe the eu are trying to get the Poles back on side.
They have become a bit anti eu lately, so maybe this is a little 'sweetner'

lets all disagree with so and so
Well actually they do Gerispringer
Maryeliza in a privious user name did it. But unfortunately while private messaging she linked in the person she was trying to get ignored.

Ninny is spot on about “ jumping to conclusions” without actually reading the petition.

I would turn your comment right on its head Gerispringer and ask Why ( or rather how ) was the French/Dutch bid so cheap ? Because they are partly owned by the French government who are subsidising the bid perhaps ? Because the passports will really be manufacturers in Poland maybe ?

Over 81,000 now. Why come on here Oldmeg if you are not signing the petition.

Don’t be so bloody rude ninny. No one is ‘ganging up’ just because we don’t agree with you.

And there are good historic reasons why papers like the DM are odious to some.

I understood that the empty passport would be made wherever and all the info added in U.K. when you think about it that has to be the case or they would need to stop the four hour service.
I think that they should be totally made in U.K. but I am surprised at nothing this Govt says or does. I also read that the crossing of the Ts and dotting of the I s still has to take place.

Nellimoser if you had taken time to read the Dairy Mail petition you would see it is about the contract to produce the new passport not the colour. Take time to read the petition before jumping to conclusions or are you another one of the Daily Mail haters. They did contribute to charging for plastic bags and also a petition now for a deposit scheme for bottles.

No flipping way. If all some posters are concerned about, is the colour of a flipping passport then God help us all.

As the DM is making it's usual not so subtle comments over the colour of our flipping passports. There is no way I am posting on that.

Maybe we should also ask the question why was the British contract bid so expensive? How much are the directors/ shareholders etc of De La Rue paid?