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Comrade Corbychev's Cock-Ups

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Primrose65 Mon 09-Apr-18 21:00:15

A continuation of Momentum/Intertia/Magnetism/Elasticity but with a less scientific bias. grin

A thread about Corbyn. For lovers and haters.

Anniebach Mon 23-Apr-18 16:31:57

Oh dear

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/949755/Labour-serial-conspiracy-theorist-mandy-richards-14-false-lawsuits-candidate-worcester

Day6 Mon 23-Apr-18 16:37:31

"Mandy Richards has made false accusations about the Met, the Army, MI5, MI6, Hackney Council, Royal Mail, her GP and the freeholder of her flat.

She has now been selected to try and overturn the 2,500 Conservative majority won by MP Robin Walker at the previous election."

You couldn't make it up. shock How on earth did this fantasist get to stand for Labour?

Is Labour looking to replace the Raving Loony Party?

Anniebach Mon 23-Apr-18 16:57:29

Scroll below the Thornberry video , she was in top form in 2016 , Diane Abbott said she was obsessive

M0nica Mon 23-Apr-18 17:23:18

According to the DM Mandy Richards 'forgot' to mention all the court orders banning her from vexatious litigation, police cautions etc on her application form to the Labour party - and then blamed the current furore on her colour!

mostlyharmless Mon 23-Apr-18 17:28:21

According to the New Statesman, the NEC is expected to refuse to adopt Mandy Richards as a candidate. She was selected by the local party and hasn’t yet been vetted by the NEC.

lemongrove Mon 23-Apr-18 20:06:16

Then everybody had better keep their fingers crossed!
What are the local party thinking of? Are they thinking at all?

Iam64 Tue 24-Apr-18 08:56:54

Let's hope Mandy Richards isn't accepted as a candidate by the NEC then mostlyharmless. What does her selection say about her local party though?

Anniebach Tue 24-Apr-18 09:06:24

The elections are on the 3rd May, only nine days to go and she hasn't been vetted by the NEC? Does the NEC vet every candidate in every council election in England ?

mmmmmmm

mostlyharmless Tue 24-Apr-18 09:30:05

Apparently she is a candidate for the Parliamentary seat - so plenty of time to find a new candidate before the next General Election. Unless May decides to call a snap election again like this time last year! Unlikely!

Labour allows local parties to select their own candidates in the same way that the Conservative Party does.

The Guardian says: Labour gave up vetting shortlists of candidates centrally more than a decade ago, partly because it was seen as a way of exercising undue control over who was selected. However, selected candidates have to be endorsed by the NEC.

Anniebach Tue 24-Apr-18 10:16:47

My mistake , thank you

mostlyharmless Tue 24-Apr-18 14:22:36

Though Annie to be honest it’s even worse thinking that she could have been a Westminster MP!

Anniebach Tue 24-Apr-18 14:39:14

True mostly,

M0nica Wed 25-Apr-18 10:51:10

I was listening to R4 this morning and heard an interview with one of the Jewish leaders JC met yesterday. I found it revelatory.

He said Corbyn really engaged in their talks with him, but the moment they started talking about actions he could take, he just shrugged his shoulders.

It suddenly occurred to me that this is Corbyns fatal flaw, he will not make decisions or commit himself to anything. This is why he has been so equivocal about admitting that the Russian were involved in poisoning the Skripals, many of his rebellions were because voting with his party meant committing himself to definite policies and actions. He played around with terrorist groups, but made no commitments and he is doing this still now he is the party leader. Hence the mess it is in.

I am reminded of the description of the Duke of Plaza-Toro in ' the G&S comic opera The Gondoliers'

^In enterprise of martial kind,
When there was any fighting,
He led his regiment from behind
(He found it less exciting).
But when away his regiment ran,
His place was at the fore, O-
That celebrated,
Cultivated,
Underrated
Noble man,
The Duke of Plaza-Toro!^

Anniebach Wed 25-Apr-18 13:02:22

I love The Gondoliers and love your post MOnica, so true, Corbyn can talk the talk etc

lemongrove Wed 25-Apr-18 15:56:43

Yes, that’s a very fair description I think Monica he has no leadership skills, being simply part of a team would suit him with no decisions to make.A back bencher or something similar! grin

M0nica Wed 25-Apr-18 16:08:55

or preferably a position where he doesn't have to be involved in any decisions at all, that way he doesn't have to take responsibility for anything.

lemongrove Wed 25-Apr-18 16:10:47

The allotment Committee? Although those can get very heated at times.

petra Wed 25-Apr-18 17:21:01

I put the shrugging of the shoulders down to muscle memory.
the ability to reproduce a particular movement without conscious thought aquired as a result of frequent repetition of that movement grin
He does shrug his shoulders a lot.

M0nica Wed 25-Apr-18 17:51:22

Perhaps it was the allotment committee that scared him off decision making.

Petra yes, doesn't require any conscious thought.

Jalima1108 Wed 25-Apr-18 18:08:47

A very good description, M0nica

However, he must be able to make some decisions, eg when to plant his marrow seeds, when to transplant the seedlings , when a blackberry is ripe enough to pick and which recipe to use for his jam.
Although perhaps he is a follower rather than a decision maker, following Monty Don and Delia Smith.

I said from the beginning that he is a puppet.

petra Wed 25-Apr-18 18:38:43

jalima
All those decisions he makes Re his allotment is for him and nobody else.

Jalima1108 Wed 25-Apr-18 18:43:31

That's right of course, petra
Good observation

M0nica Wed 25-Apr-18 19:06:22

Jalima spot on. To me it shows a lack of moral courage

Day6 Wed 25-Apr-18 19:08:22

However, selected candidates have to be endorsed by the NEC.

That means they have to be vetted by Momentum bods.. and far left I presume. Hmmm. Come the revolution... hmm

Corbyn should never have been selected to lead the party. He is the most dithery, indecisive, evasive politician of all time, with a penchant for inaction and a default position of 'lets talk about it over tea.'

You wouldn't want to rely on him in a crisis, that's for sure. He'd boil the kettle but do sod all else. He might ring Comrade Putin for advice. Or Comrade Maduro in Venezuela.

He can never be allowed to lead the country. The only winners would be hard left revolutionary types who'd be pulling his strings and disaster would reign in every single sphere.

Jalima1108 Wed 25-Apr-18 19:45:18

but do sod all else.
You may get home-made scones and jam Day6

It is all very well sitting on the back benches voting against everything and everyone and pretending to be Citizen Smith, but that does not make a leader - let alone a Prime Minister.