Comrade Corbychev's Cock-Ups

I’m not trying to change the subject, I see what you mean about unambitious Europhobic Corbyn being unwillingly trapped by his close colleagues in the role of party leader, trying to keep the right and left wing in line.
I feel Theresa May is also a pretty mediocre leader trapped reluctantly by her party and her sense of duty, forced to take on the poisoned chalice of delivering Brexit and keeping peace between the Europhile faction and the extreme Brexiteer factions of the party.
I don’t think either Corbyn or May will be leaders in a few years time.

Of the two,leaders I have respect for May,I certaintly do not see Corbyn trying to keep a tight reign on the far left, he worked to get those who were expelled from the party in the eighties back into the party, he refused to support every leader since he became an MP, with the exception of Michael Foot, and he wasn’t as far left as Corbyn,

I do feel sorry for both of them annie. Neither are natural leaders. They are both principled people in their different ways. Both trapped!

mostlyharmless, Corbyn has no loyalty to the Labour
Party, he doesn’t care that he is destroying it, his dream is a communist party in the UK , it is all he has ever wanted and what he is working for now , he cannot work with his centre left MP’s and this is what will bring a Labour victory , all his talk about the homeless , the poor, no leader will eradicate these.

But surely leaders must have the “aim” of reducing poverty and providing more housing even if they can never completely eradicate poverty and homelessness.

Most certainty they should , how they attempt to achieve them affects us all.

All is not well in Lewisham East by election, the short list has been decided by the NEC and local members have called the process - a stitch up,, the front runner being touted is Phyll Opuku-Gyimah , a trade union official and co founder of UK Black Pride

Sakina Sheikh is getting support from left wing members and Momentum.

An article about housing from a year ago which is interesting:

www.economist.com/blogs/speakerscorner/2017/04/battle-builders

That is not to say that either party has done enough.

Couldn’t access it, have to subscribe , which party has built more Jalima?

From GuidoFawkes

"LEWISHAM EAST RUNNERS AND RIDERS

"You can bet there will be an almighty bunfight for the selection for the ultra-safe Labour seat of Lewisham East.

Sakina Sheikh: The Corbynista candidate. Last week she was filmed sharing a platform with Shakeel Begg, the imam at Lewisham Islamic Centre who was ruled by the High Court in 2016 to “clearly promote and encourage violence in support of Islam and espouse a series of extremist Islamic positions”. In 2006 Begg reportedly told his followers to travel to Palestine to “fight the Zionists”. Sheikh’s candidacy at the local elections was endorsed by Begg’s Lewisham Islamic Centre, which has been linked to the killers of Lee Rigby. Sheikh has also appeared on Russia Today and written several articles for the communist Morning Star newspaper. Can see why the Corbynistas like her…

Claudia Webbe: Former Ken Livingstone adviser who wrote a letter defending Ken when he compared a Jewish journalist to a concentration camp guard. Relative of
Simon Webbe from Blue.

Nadine Houghton: GMB organiser. Red Roar reports she is “a former member of The Socialist Party (previously, Militant) who once wrote in an Alliance of Workers’ Liberty (AWL) pamphlet on Labour”. Sounds fun.

Kevin Bonavia: The moderate choice. Lewisham Cabinet member. Solicitor.

Aaron Bastani: Formerly chair of the neighbouring Lewisham West CLP, Bastani is local but has bottled standing. Shame, Chris Williamson could do with some company in Westminster.

Jon Lansman: Lives down the road in a multi million pound apartment at Shad Thames, overlooked by the Corbynistas for the Labour General Secretary gig, has previously been tipped for a tilt at parliament before. Too male, pale and stale?

Tom Copley: He’s a Labour London Assembly member, lives in Lewisham, and is the newly elected councillor for Sydenham. LGBT activist, formerly Ken Livingstone’s campaign manager. Told friends he’s tempted but thinks it will be an all women shortlist.

The winner will be defending a cushy 21,000 majority "

It's frightening. This is the make-up of Corbyn's Labour Party.

It is frighting

Can I ask Labour supporters here if they would vote for Sakina Sheikh?

Would you give this woman political power? Be honest with yourselves.

As a labour supporter not a Corbyn supporter NO , NO,NO

Lewisham is a Labour stronghold, so it will be really 'interesting' to see who wins it and gets to sit in the House of Commons.

The local party are angry that they only have six days to select, and angry the bi election is being rushed

I assume Lewisham hasn’t a large number of Jews?

It won’t be won by Kevin Bonavia that’s for sure!

Day6 - I am a LP voter, have been since I was old enough to vote. On one occasion in the mid 70's I voted Liberal because our pharmacist, GP and dentist stood on a joint ticket. They lived in the constituency and were good folks but the conservatives won (as usual)
This year, I voted Green in the local elections. I know the LP candidate who is a decent individual. It was a foregone conclusion the Conservative councillors would win the ward again. I thought long and hard but decided as I've been so disappointed with our local council for so long rather than "waste" my vote on the Labour candidate who'd no chance of winning I'd vote with my heart.
I certainly would not vote for the S Sheikh

We often seem to return a Lib Dem Councillor in our ward (and I voted for him) but the constituency has changed from Tory to Labour (mainly Tory) quite regularly.

We have a town council bi election next week, this will be interesting, if we win the town council will be labour controlled, an affluent town in a conservative County, our town labour councillors , one in particular, works his socks off

We always voted for the Lib Dem councillor because he was very good ( and we voted that way anyway) but then we moved area and were lost as to who to vote for, and the Conservative one always got in anyway.

I think that in local elections it is often the electorate votes for the person rather than the party.
I did vote for the party last time because the candidate was a complete unknown but I didn't fancy any of the other candidates anyway.

hope you make sense of that

Yes, it takes a while to get to know a councillor and the Party is not as important.

the labour candidate in next week’s council bi election is a newcomer , this is what makes it interesting