Completely agree gillybob we can respect the office ,not the incumbent. As for "sooking up" to other world leaders re trade ,are we not already trading with them via the EU?
National treasures. Who would you choose?
Completely agree gillybob we can respect the office ,not the incumbent. As for "sooking up" to other world leaders re trade ,are we not already trading with them via the EU?
If the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in (had to google his name) can graciously meet the depot that is Kim Jong-Un why can’t “we” extend a hand to the president of the United States of America?
Very likely, Granny23.
I'll bet they are the very people who are quick to jump in to say that Nicola Sturgeon, the democratically elected First Minister of Scotland, has no right to speak on behalf of Scots or Scotland.
I don't get aerated about many things, but this got my goat today when I read it! How dare they?
I don't know one single person here who has a good word for Trump. If he comes to this area, I'll be joining any protest that takes place!
Caledonail I agree with you that a silent back-turning protest would be far more effective and dignified than a lot of screaming, shouting and general misbehaviour - which would undoubtedly provide a welcome opportunity for all protesters to be characterised as troublemakers.
I thought that Trump had upset a lot of Scots with his Turnberry and Aberdeen golf courses. I wouldn’t have thought he would be any more welcome there than in London and quite possibly less.
Didn’t he build on an SSSI, build a wall or dyke that ruined people’s views and promise to create thousands of jobs that didn’t materialise?
He’s certainly not very popular in our neck of the woods after the planning issues surrounding his golf course. It’s commonly known as Trumpton!
The signatories to the letter (in their own words) The Republicans Overseas Scotland group is made up of American Republicans who wish to keep in touch with the party. Understandable that they want to have their President visit Scotland, but they are speaking for themselves, not for Scots.
Think Scotland - The site relaunched in July 2012 seeking a far broader constituency as an independent not-for-profit debating forum with a cross-section of topical, political and cultural writing on a daily basis.
ThinkScotland’s editorial position has always been right of centre – with the aim of explaining and defending free markets and an open liberal society – but crucially without endorsing any one political party – or taking a corporate view. "
Comments are encouraged but moderated. Enjoy, be infuriated – but either way, respond. www.thinkscotland.org/about-us/
The Bow Group is the United Kingdom's oldest conservative think tank. Founded in 1951, the Bow Group exists to publish the research of its members, stimulate policy debate through an events programme and to provide an intellectual home to conservatives in the United Kingdom. Although firmly housed in the conservative family, the Bow Group does not take a corporate view and it represents all strands of conservative opinion.
The Bruges Group ^ is an independent all-party think tank. Set up in February 1989, its aim was to promote the idea of a less centralised European structure than that emerging in Brussels.^
Parliament Street is an innovative young think tank dedicated to creating a community of ideas. We aim at all times to give all our members a high return on involvement through participation. We don’t have a corporate view, except when we do.
The Freedom Association, founded in 1975 is is a non-partisan, centre-right, libertarian pressure group. We believe in the freedom of the individual in all aspects of life to as great an extent as possible. As such, we seek to challenge all erosion of civil liberties and campaign in support of individual liberty and freedom of expression.
They'll keep him away from protests, but it's going to be a huge cost in extra security wherever he goes.
I'm more and more in favour of a mass back-turning, silent protest which will make it onto TV news, even if they keep it from him in person. Sincerely hope nobody gets hurt but there's always the chance of tempers getting frayed. Very hard job for the police, I suspect.
I think it's yet another downside of Brexit that we are going to have to sook up to world leaders no matter what their values and history.
The tweets might provide some light relief though.
Just announced - he is to visit the UK on Friday 13 July, the White House says. No details yet about his itinerary. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he will go to St Andrews, where a branch of Republicans Overseas has been started. That, the golf, and the St A connection with Prince William should draw him there.
I agree. These groups are speaking for themselves and should not imply that they are representing the views of all Scottish people.
No doubt Trump has some Scottish supporters but I am aware that he is very unpopular in some areas where he has tried to impose his will regarding various of his business projects.
As far as the "special relationship" is concerned, it seems only to be called into play when it suits the US.
The remarks are also divisive. There are also "ordinary British people" in London and, as in Scotland and the North of England, they don't all have the same opinions re Trump or anything else.
Elegran thanks for posting that. I felt down when I read the story. I have written to the BBC, suggesting they look at their archive news to see just how far fetched the think tanks' ideas are....especially the bit about how easy it will be for him to meet ordinary Brits in Scotland...and what their attitude to him might be.
I would say there's just as much chance of protests in Scotland as there is in London. If only at the lack of promised jobs at Menie and the treatment of neighbours.
There are very good reasons why Scotland sacked him as a global trade ambassador.
This makes my blood boil..what right have these conservative groups to say what the people of Scotland think.The Conservatives have a mere 22% of the vote here hardly in power!!As for the "special relationship" being America's poodle went out of fashion around the time of Tony Blair and long may it be so .If anyone is "out of touch" its these clowns .
I am reading a book by Philippa Gregory about Henry VIII. It was wise for his subjects to praise and flatter him and address him in terms which emphasised how much he was loved and respected by all, even when they saw that he was bending all the laws of state and church to suit his own wishes and desires. The sentiments and tone of this letter to DT would have been familiar to many in that era.
" . . the heads of British conservative think tanks the Bow Group, Bruges Group, Parliament Street and the Freedom Association, as well as the chairman of Republicans Overseas Scotland and a contributor to ThinkScotland." wrote to Donald Trump to tell him that "the political and media establishment in London was "far out of touch" with the feelings of ordinary people outside the capital, many of whom they said "strongly support" his leadership." and urge him to meet the Queen in Scotland instead - "Your ancestral homeland of Scotland represents a powerful bond between you and Britain, and given the nature of the climate in London, it is a superior destination."
"Scotland and the North of England also offer a variety of locations where you would be able to speak directly to ordinary British people and witness the true level of support that exists for you and the special relationship between the US and the UK."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43908976#
Do they have any notion of how Trump is rated by the Scots, who have seen him in action? What makes them imagine that the level of support north of the border is any higher than in London? Or do they not give a damn, frankly my dear, so long as they can deflect him to visit some other part of the UK?
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