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Jacob Rees-Mogg Moves For Conservative Party Leadership.

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Grandad1943 Wed 23-May-18 17:49:55

With an open attack on Theresa Mays handling of the Brexit negotiations many in the media believe that Jacob Rees-Mogg has made his first open move in a bid to become Conservative party leader and Britain's next Prime Minister.

Rees-Mogg in yet another of his ongoing interviews with the media lambasted "weak" Theresa May for preparing the UK for "Brexit failure". Rees-Mogg stated that with The British negotiators going into each set of negotiations with an attitude of "we will kowtow before you, Mr Barnier in every way you possible throughout these talks" there is no hope of success for the UK. The foregoing are undoubtedly harsh words indeed even from an arch hard line Brexitier, but many believe that there is far more to Rees-Moggs words than just Brexit.

It may well be that this hard line right wing politician has witnessed the way that Jeremy Corbyn has moved the Labour party to the left and now feels he could carry out the same in the Conservative party with the exception of that move being in the opposite direction in regards to political ground.

Evidence to the above can be seen in Rees-Moggs attack on Scottish Conservative Leader Ruth Davison, for in the same interview he stated that Davison should not be allowed to marry her longtime same sex partner as planned. However, same sex marriage legislation was put before parliament and passed in 2013 under the David Cameron coalition government.

In making the above comment Rees-Mogg is undoubtedly looking to damage Ruth Davison, who also is seen as a possible next leader of the Conservative party. That stated, it is also being seen as a move against centre ground Concervatives in parliament.

In the above can be seen shades of Momentum's original moves against centre Blairite MPs in the Labour party.

lemongrove Sat 02-Jun-18 13:50:37

No, you don’t need to be a hypocrite yourself to spot one,
What a curious thing for you to say trisher.
Being the child of an MP could result in unwanted attention, at any school, state or private, but that’s another matter.
Any MP who shouts about inequalities regarding types of education and then sends their own offspring to private schools is a hypocrite.

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 14:04:48

What’s your take on JC then for NOT wanting to do that?

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 14:08:08

No, I think it takes someone who chooses to ignore the truth to defend a hypocrite

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 14:09:20

It wasn’t a curious thing to say lemon, it was a deliberate slur on a posters character

trisher Sat 02-Jun-18 14:13:42

I was thinking lemonthat if the MP sends their child to a local school there are places where not only the children but the parents could subject the child to unwanted attention in order to influence their parent. It would as always depend upon the quality of the school and the area it serves, but it is a distinct possibility.Teachers sometimes have similar problems, so they often move their children to a school in a different area.

lemongrove Sat 02-Jun-18 14:17:47

Yes, that’s true, but an MP could do the same, choose a state school a bit further away.

MawBroon Sat 02-Jun-18 14:29:52

Catchment area, lemongrove?
Or one could be like Diane Abbott and after independent secondary school, send him to an independent boarding school in Ghana for the Sixth Form . hmm

nigglynellie Sat 02-Jun-18 14:48:58

That was certainly out of the public eye!!!

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 15:02:34

Was it really nn? That damn left wing press hiding stories about Labour MPs. Whatever next. Why does the Ghana schoool matter anyway - isn’t the real issue about not being educated in a state school?

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 15:43:58

If one lives in England and send’s one’s son to an independent boarding school in Ghana it has everything to do with not being educated in a state school

trisher Sat 02-Jun-18 15:52:52

Isn't that what Tony Blair did lemon and was heavily criticised for doing it? So maybe you are damned whatever you do.

trisher Sat 02-Jun-18 15:54:08

Maybe she thought he should experience other cultures.

MawBroon Sat 02-Jun-18 15:59:52

Sandwiched between City of London Boys’ and Cambridge?
There are plenty of excellent Sixth Form colleges in London, but perhaps an independent boarding school was more helpful in getting him in.

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 16:38:18

Once DA made the decision to educate him privately,it’s irrelevant surely what country he was educated in? I can see the sense of his experiencing Africa - why not? It must have been a great experience

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 17:11:42

Experiencing other cultures is what High School teenagers do in a gap year or when leaving universities .

No matter it was Ghana, it was not uk state education .

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 17:16:56

Support banning grammar schools but as it’s Corbyn close friend it’s a great experience to choose a school in another country .

No condemnation from Corbynites , just praise .

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 17:23:36

I have criticised what DA did in making her choice - RTFT and stop attributing statements to me that are not true - iirc you get pretty pissed off about this ab

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 17:26:54

maryeliza54 Sat 02-Jun-18 10:22:36
Re abs point and children’s education. FWIW I do think that people who choose to go into public life and thereby espouse certain policies eg towards selective education should follow those policies in their private lives.

Which bit of this don’t you understand?

Anniebach Sat 02-Jun-18 17:41:38

I am according to Corbynites a Tory supporter because I find JRM amusing.

What does it make Diane Abbott who chose Johnathon Aitkin Tory MP as Godfather for her son.

mcem Sat 02-Jun-18 17:50:15

baggs this was their catchment area primary school and she was satisfied with it, but not the secondary to which they'd move after p7.
Her no 1 daughter transferred to private education after p7.
However, mother did not like the teacher that no 2 daughter should have had and transferred her after p5.
The hypocrisy was compounded by the fact that she insisted private education was not her choice but that of the paternal GP's who paid the fees!
The GP's worked way beyond retiral age and remained in their small council flat to meet the costs!
BUT, the plan worked as both girls met and married 'suitable' men and Mum achieved her goal!

nigglynellie Sat 02-Jun-18 18:31:52

Oh no annie!! Surely not! I'm completely astonished!!

petra Sat 02-Jun-18 18:48:38

Get in there annie grin

petra Sat 02-Jun-18 18:54:24

Although he did see the error of his ways while in prison wink Did this go some way for him to be released early?mmm, let me think grin

Day6 Sat 02-Jun-18 19:01:05

Grandad with the rest of their small membership

BINGO!!!! Yay! grin

Here we go again. Small membership of the Conservative party versus LARGE membership of the "For Three Quid Come And Be A Corbyn Revolutionary, Comrade" party. grin

And we mustn't forget that despite Momentum's backing and a HUGE membership, Corbyn and Labour LOST the last election and didn't fare well in recent local elections either.

Baggs Sat 02-Jun-18 19:01:08

So what, mcem? Someone made choices you apparently wouldn't have made in the same circumstances. It's hardly a big deal. And it's not hypocrisy to dislike a teacher and to prefer that one's child be taught by someone else—in the best interests of the child and all that. One doesn't have to agree with such views to allow that they are within the bounds of reasonableness.

What harm does hypocrisy, if that's what it is, do anyone else? For that matter, what harm does it do the hypocrite except perhaps to make people dislike them, about which they might not care?

As for grandparents paying for private schooling, well, I think it happens a fair bit. Does this actually damage society?