Inquiry Demanded into Islamaphobia in the Conservative Party.

I still don’t understand your point joelsnan.
It’s pretty clear from twitter that there is lots of racism in the Tory party which is the subject of this thread. But it’s not suitable to be reposted on here.
It should be investigated. If there is no Islamaphobia, antisemitism or racism the Conservatives can clear their name.

Wikipedia:
"Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party has been the subject of public debate[1][2][3][4] since Jeremy Corbyn was first elected as Labour Party leader in September 2015 to the present date, and was first raised as an issue during Corbyn's initial leadership election campaign.
The current situation can be traced back to two allegations in 2016 from comments made by Naz Shah and Ken Livingstone, both of whom were suspended pending investigation. The controversy prompted Corbyn to establish the Chakrabarti Inquiry to investigate the allegations of antisemitism in the Labour Party. A number of party activists, have either been expelled or suspended after allegations of antisemitism. While Labour Party investigations concluded that some had brought the party into disrepute, others were subsequently reinstated after disciplinary measures. One senior figure resigned from the party in 2018 after being suspended for two years. Corbyn himself was the subject of controversy in 2018 over his comments in 2012 concerning the removal of an allegedly antisemitic mural were brought to public notice and for being a (seldom participating) member of three Facebook groups in which antisemitic content was posted.[5]"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party

The accusations from The Muslim Council of Britain against some Conservative MP's that they have engaged in behaviour, or made comments that stem from Islamaphobic sources, needs urgent investigation.

No doubt a similar internal party enquiry will be set up as the one that Corbyn set up, when under pressure, because of anti semitic behaviour and feeling being reportedly wide spread throughout the Labour party and activist movement Momentum. See Wikipedia information above.

There is a section of our population who describe all Asian people as "Pakis" and can't really distinguish between Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus. They are not particularly accepting of non-white people, whatever their cultural background but at the present time they feel they can get away with having a go at Muslims without too much fuss being made.

Playing around with definitions of Islamophobia is a way of trying to muddy the issue and make it appear more complex than it really is. The Muslim Council of Great Britain has detailed several incidents which, in my view, can only be described as Islamaphobic/racist:

Participating in an article which refers to Muslims as "parasites" who "live off the state";

Re-tweeting racist statements made by a number of far right, high profile anti-immigrant individuals;

Referring to Islam as the "New Nazism", etc. etc. etc.

Frankly, I am not a religious person and have no especial liking or respect for any mainstream religion or offshoot, apart perhaps from Quakerism. But I don't agree with the way in which Muslim people have been singled out and held responsible for the actions of other Muslims. Apart from it being wrong to treat people in that way, it is counter-productive because people who feel they are under attack are more likely to isolate themselves further from mainstream society, thus reinforcing a bunker mentality.

Actually, I think the racists amongst our population actually want to create that bunker mentality and so go out of their way to promote division and conflict in order to draw more people into their hate-filled ranks.

Grandad, so far as I’m aware, there have been no prosecutions of organised groups of white men grooming or abusing Muslim girls. There have been any number of prosecutions of groups of men coordinating the abuse of boys and girls. The men come from all cultures and races. Occasionally, they’re supported by women.
You’re reading of the press is correct when you conclude that many other cultures, including British Pakistani Muslim families, keep their girl children in the home. Boys are allowed more freedom.

Iam64, I believe you should read the article at the bottom of this post, for in that it is outlined that there are grooming gangs attached to all ethnic cultures with many of them being white. It also explains how the right wing press in Britain has manipulated the statistics to create an anti Muslim vision that only that culture is involved in this offence.

However, alongside grooming offences there is also the attached offences of people trafficking and modern day slavery, which are again carried out by groups in Britain from all ethnic backgrounds. Many of those are white and those offences are as equally appalling in their nature by way of what is carried out against other human beings.

All vice crime offences are dismaying to those who read of what happens in Britain today, but that is not the topic of this thread. For in that, we appear to have within the governing party of the United Kingdom, widespread islamaphobia being used to promote intolerance and through that political gain.

More members and activists from within the Conservative party have come forward today in the media to give accounts of anti-Muslim actions being used by representatives and election candidates in recent months on more than a weekly basis.

I believe that the above actions are far more serious than the recent anti-Semitism allegations levelled at the Labour party as the Conservatives are the party of government in Britain at present. It should also be remembered that the Tories are a party of only seventy thousand members (according to their own Bow Group) and therefore this sort of racism should be far easier to control as compared to such problems in the Labour party which has over half a million members.

Without doubt an immediate open inquiry should be set up, for this matter is not just about the Conservative party, it is also about the governance of a multi-cultural Britain and the equality of all under that governance.

medium.com/@Reg_Left_Media/making-a-monster-how-the-times-created-the-asian-grooming-gang-f944ad598822

Grandad, I’m aware of the extent of child sexual abuse and exploitation in every culture since the beginning of time. I agree there are huge problems with trafficking and modern slavery.

I agree That the Muslim community suffers hate crime and abuse. I don’t see any need to say it’s worse than anti semitism or to suggest anti semitism in the LP isn’t as bad as islomophobia in the CP.

Iam64, as I stated in my above post, the Concervative party is the party of government at this time. The Labour party is the not the party forming the Goverment at this time.

Therefore, at present what happens in the Labour party only directly concerns them. However, the Concervative party being the party that governs Britain, what happens in that party can affect everyone living in Britain.

So racists in the official opposition party are not as bad as racists in the government . I disagree, that’s just an attempt to distract, there should never be attempts to try to do this.

Racism is vile

The racism in the opposition party damages the country , how can they point a finger at anyone

What.? Are you seriously suggesting that HM opposition shouldn’t be held to the same standards as the government? Why ever not.

No, I am saying that racism in a goverment is far more serious than in an opposition. Of course they should both strive for the highest of standards, but when racism occurs in a goverment it can affect the nation immediately and directly. That cannot happen when a party is in opposition.

racism on a scale of serious to more serious to far more serious.

Grandad there really is no excuse for trying to teach granny to suck eggs. There are indeed among the posters on GN who have had proesssional experience of the grooming issues and cases which are being mentioned.
Perhaps if you listened instead of pontificating as the only fount of wisdom, you too might learn something.

Grandad you cannot be unaware that Her Majesty’s loyal Opposition is at all times required to adhere to the highest standards in exactly the same way as HMG

MawBroon, your above post makes no sense to me whatsoever. Also go careful with the personal remarks once again.

MawBroon, your post @ 17.51, I believe if you aquaint yourself with my post at 17:52 you will see that is exactly what I stated.

Apologies, should be 17:38 above not 17:52. Also MawBroon please stay on the subject matter and not on very personal attack. In that you may not get so upset as you did the other day when your posts are removed.

With every respect of course

Maw is always truthful, never unpleasant, you have no right to warn her to ‘go careful’ uncalled for and most rude .

anniebach, I believe if you or anyone else reads MawBroons post at 17:49 today you will witness that forum member can be very unpleasant and personal in posting.

Now, shall we return to topic, that being allegations of islamaphobia in the Conservative party.

I always read Maw’s posts, I read the one you consider unpleasant, I read what is true. We have posters here who have dedicated their lives to supporting children , not as a parent but experienced in their career , with as much knowledge as you claim to have on unions. With respect if you chose to listen to these experts you too would learn much

As I stated this thread is not about children's care or gang grooming. The topic is allegations of Islamaphobia in the Conservative party

So, shall we return to that subject matter.

Grandad, you go on laying the law down about what we can or cannot discuss you may well find you're returning to the subject matter on your own !

Which you have placed as more serious than racism in the Labour Party. With respect it seems you are using this as attack on a political party you dislike in every way whilst excusing it in the party you support.

Do carry on.

I find it strange that so many wished to comment on the allegations of anti-semitism in the Labour party that the topic continued for weeks. Many who posted on that subject stated they were Labour party supporters or even Labour party members and yet those very same forum members seem not to wish to discuss islamaphobia in the Conservative party with the same vigour and challenge now.

Instead they seem to want to divert onto Gang grooming etc when anyone would believe that these staunch long-term Labour supporters would be in on the Tory islamaphobia allegations like a lion pack in a hunt.

Leaves me wondering about their so say Labour support?

Wonder away