Inquiry Demanded into Islamaphobia in the Conservative Party.

Yes I am sure I and others very much are?

One of the joys of gransnet is the way threads occasionally go off OP. I didn’t raise the issue of grooming gangs but I did respond when others did. That’s the way threads go. If you want to start another thread on the issue of widespread sexual abuse and exploitation, Grandad, go ahead. I’ll be surprised if you find any research substantiating your allegation that gangs of white men are targeting Asian girls. Gangs of white men are more likely to target vulnerable children, boys and girls from difficult home backgrounds. I think you used the term “sink estates”. I wouldn’t use a description like that because I know many lovely families, from a variety of cultures and backgrounds who lived on areas that could be described in such derogatory language.

I didn’t read anything unpleasant in Maw Brooks post, I did perceive a threat in the warning that followed.

No one is suggesting that allegations of racism in any party shouldn’t be investigated, thoroughly. It isn’t a competition, is it? To see whether the CP or the LP has the biggest problem.

Grandad, I don’t ‘do’ pack hunting , carry on looking for a hunting pack to join you

No, I am saying that racism in a goverment is far more serious than in an opposition.
Really?
Both should adhere to the highest ethical standards and racism is serious at all times.
Now we have a Muslim Home Secretary, perhaps if there is any Islamophobia at grassroots level it will be rooted out and dealt with promptly.

MawBroon, your above post makes no sense to me whatsoever.
It seems perfectly understandable and straightforward to me, which part did you not understand Grandad?

I find it strange that so many wished to comment on the allegations of anti-semitism in the Labour party that the topic continued for weeks.
Possibly because that thread meandered too, as threads tend to do.

Well, if reports on Google are correct there are to be substantial new allegations in regard to Islamaphobia in the Conservative party to be revealed in the press this coming Sunday.

I am sure we all look forward to viewing those reports should they come about.

Well, you sound pleased anyway Grandad!

I just look forward to any action required taking place promptly and decisively and no shilly-shallying as there was in the LP regarding anti-Semitism.

and No investigations in private with the person chosen to carry the investigations immediately made a member of the House of Lords, or anyone guilty be suspended for four years then choose to leave the party with the leader declaring ‘I will miss you’

I wonder why, when all parliamentary parties now contain members of other races, faiths and cultures that there are now increasing cries of religious prejudices in the form of antisemitism and Islamaphobia. Have these prejudices arisen as a result of the multi faith mix within the parties and the strong prejudices that one or two hold against each other?

Joelsnan, It would be fascinating to watch this situation if it were not for the fact that this matter seems set to further destabilise this already very unstable government.

With all the problems of Brexit in which this government seems to have no handle on whatsoever, together with division within government and across the parties in the commons, a General election may well be forced on this country in the late Autumn.

That Election may well solve nothing if the same divisions are brought back to parliament following the ballot.

And all the above was brought about in an attempt to placate the extremists on the right wing of the Tory party.

Joelsnan, I suspect there are more concerns expressed about racism in its various forms doesn’t result from ‘strong prejudices” one or two faiths hold against each other. It seems more likely to be due to the fact more people in society generally are condemning racism, anti semitism, islamohobia, homophobia etc.

True Iam, plus gone is the time when people could only spout their racist comments with like minded people, now they have the internet. I would not have learned about the repulsive Jewdas Seder racist group if it wasn’t for the internet.

Iam64 I wonder though what the solution can be. It seems to me that prejudice is within the DNA of humanity and even animals who will either shun, reject or attack anything different to their group. Assimilation only occurs (within zoos and similar) after a long process of integration.

The enlightenment brought about by education has led to to the challenging of religion and its creation of biases towards large parts of our communities this helped but still has some way to go and just telling people 'you are racist, stop it' does nothing too.

Will the growing calls of prejudice against me, my colour, my faith or my culture create more division as attention to one sector often creates a 'me too' response.
Or should we collectively try and agree that we choose to live in a multi race, religious, cultural environment...and get on with it.

As Nicenanny said I have never heard of “white gangs sexually abusing Asian girls” either . Plenty examples of the opposite though.

Having married an immigrant, I have seen and experienced prejudiced from all sides. There are a minority of people in every ethnicity who hold obnoxious views.

In my experience the majority of people, whether white, black, brown, yellow or a mixture, are decent and just want to make a good life for themselves.

Just as you can find "followers" of Islam who will want to destroy those not of the same faith (despite Mohammad saying that to spill the blood of one man is to spill the blood of the world), you can find a white men who want to deport all immigrants and be willing to attack someone who looks different. It is unfortunate that it is these minorities who get all the headlines and not the multi-ethnic, multi-faith groups who work together to help those less fortunate.

Please could you provide a link to the article 're gangs of white men grooming young Asian girls Grandad1943? I've seen nothing at all about that in the press recently or before and would be genuinely interested to read it.

Oldwoman, you've absolutely hit the nail on the head, what you've said is so very true.

That’s because there aren’t any Chewy !

Yes, Oldwoman very true, but people who are tolerant and get on with others doesn’t make headlines.

Lady Warsi a former chairperson of the Concervative party has sent an open letter to Theresa May in regard to growing Islamaphobia in the party. Within the letter, I like many I am sure was unaware of the disgusting campaign fought by Zac Goldsmith using islamaphobia as a weapon against his opponent in the London Mayoral Election. In 2016.

An outline of a Guardian article on the letter is reproduced here:-
Theresa Mayis under growing pressure to investigate Islamophobia in the Conservative party after a top Tory peer echoed calls made this week by the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) and Sayeeda Warsi.

Mohamed Sheikh said an independent inquiry was required to “show we will not tolerate any form of discrimination within our own party”

Lady Warsi, the party’s former chair, has said the failure was “embarrassing” for the party and that hercalls over the past two years had gone unheeded.

In an open letter to the prime minister, Lord Sheikh said Muslim voters “cannot bring themselves to vote Conservative because they simply do not believe the Conservative party can and will support Muslim

His letter highlighted a number of incidents, including the “smear campaign” conducted by Zac Goldsmith against Sadiq Khan before the 2016 London mayoral election.

Goldsmith’s decision to label his Labour rival as a “‘terrorist sympathiser’ was an absolute disgrace, even for the most ardent Conservative supporter – Muslim or not. Such conduct not only embarrassed the party but alienated many Conservative members from the campaign, and voters,” Sheikh wrote.

Attempts to raise the issue with Goldsmith, Conservative party chiefs and then prime minister David Cameron were “ignored”, he said. The party donor was a party, buter to Cameron and ran the Conservative Muslim Forum.

MCB said this week that Goldsmith’s campaign was evidence of a wider problem of “dog whistle anti-Muslim racism” in the party.

Harun Khan, the head of the MCB, called for a “genuinely independent inquiry” into Islamophobia in the Tory party.

He questioned why no action had been taken against Bob Blackman, the Harrow East MP, after hehosted a hardline Hindu nationalist, Tapan Ghosh, in parliament in October 2017.

In his letter, Sheikh said he had raised the issue with May. “Regrettably, the response fell short of the swift and determined action required,” he told the prime minister.

The peer, who entered the Lords in 2006, also said it was a “great disappointment” that Muslims he had recommended as potential Tory candidates in the last general election were not chosen.

Full artical can be found by following the below link
www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/02/pressure-grows-for-theresa-may-to-tackle-islamophobia-in-conservative-party

Further reports on the current state of the conservative party and the May leadership are to be found in many of today's papers (Sunday 3rd June 2018).

Why should action be taken for an MP hosting a Hindu Nationalist in Parliament? What awful things has the man,
Tapan Ghosh done, except for being a Hindu Nationalist as many Hindus are? Corbyn has hosted IRA members for goodness sake!
Apart from what Zac Goldsmith may or may not have said and done two years ago, what other Conservative MP’s or councillors etc are there that makes for the assertion that Muslims feel they can’t vote Conservative? I know at least
two Muslim couples who always vote that way for a start.
Yes, let there be an open investigation by all means if there are enough acts/words to warrant it, there should be no place in any political party for either anti-semitism( a fault in the LP) or Islamaphobia, if it is actually there.

There are no white men gangs grooming and raping groups of Asian girls btw Grandad

of course not we all know that "white men " are all above reproach .Its these awful foreigners who behave like animals .If thats what MSM say then it must be true !

That must be one of your most ridiculous posts to date Paddyann ( and there have been some humdingers!)

The Asian grooming gangs in the UK are not foreigners in the main, most were born here.

There are plenty of white paedophiles around as you well know, in fact they are to be found in all nationalities around the world, but the gangs who are grooming and raping and using white girls are of mainly Pakistani heritage.
There are no gangs of white men doing the same to groups of Asian girls.

Can anyone post a link telling of white men forming paedophile rings and targeting Asian girls ?