High street store Lush brands the police "liars"

Corbyn is not responsible for this company’s attack on the
police force, as they support him he should speak out and say it was unacceptable.

F goodness S paddyann, annie's husband was a serving police officer, if you can't show a bit of respect, you could at least be tactful! I am deeply sorry annie for your loss.

I know the guys who started Lush in Poole all those years ago. The company has always been ethical and decent I don’t think it’s fair to compare this with Ratner as he was caught saying his company produces were rubbish!
I believe everyone makes mistakes and this may be theirs don’t boycott them for just this as someone up thread said they do amazing work in the community and are great employers.

Thank you niggly, I don’t mind police being criticised when they have done wrong. I find this campaign upsetting by claiming police are liars . My husband was young, he was on a drugs raid when he died, this because he wanted to do all he could to stop young people dying. He already had two comendations for bravery. We need to think of the likes of the police officer blinded by Ralph Mout, he later took his own life. So many have died. Not all police officers are liars and I hope the PM and Corbyn condemn this.

Mistake? They are to continue this for another two weeks. The excuse that they are good employers etc is no different to saying ‘ he may have murdered his wife but he was always good to his mother ‘

And just go away with your stupid infantile pathetic comments - at least I can construct an argument

Well, if your abusive comments above are proof of that, I am afraid you are seriously deluding yourself maryeliza.

maryeliza
It would have been perfectly possible to have discussed this issue predicated upon what we can and should expect from businesses and the folly to us of Lush’s behaviour

Examination question? Discuss?

Such control issues.

That is YOUR agenda maryeliza and as you must know by now threads will meander. That may not be to your liking, but it happens. I don't think many people care about what we should expect from businesses with regard to Lush's offensive and bizarre campaign "Paid to Lie" - which btw, will run for two more weeks while they promote the hashtag 'SpyCops' on social media.

What mind-blowing stupidity.

It’s no surprise then that this attention-seeking move has rubbed the public up the wrong way. No organisation is perfect, and the police have an extremely difficult job to do (to say nothing of the pressure and scrutiny they face every day.) What the public have inferred from this incident is that a makeup company known for its commitment to ethics is taking advantage of that reputation to ramp up business, even if that means taking aim at those who keep us safe

Critics of the campaign are calling for a boycott of the chain. My instinct is that it won’t be necessary. Even in a Britain partially fractured by the political developments of recent years, there remains a deserved respect for the police. When a company attacks the police for commercial gain, the public will not take it lightly

www.cityam.com/286803/lush-got-so-wrong-

Omission: The above, in bold, by Paul Blanchard.

There have been several undercover police scandals and I think they are right to draw attention to it. However, from what I have read the way this was done was very clumsy in that it seemed to suggest all police officers behaved improperly.

I don't buy Lush products but it is a company which produces cruelty free cosmetics, bath and beauty preparations. Since most of the cruelty-free brands have been taken over, e.g. Liz Earle and Body Shop, I think it would be a great shame if this closes down any or all Lush shops.

No, they were were not right to draw attention to it.
Any undercover ‘police scandals’ are not dealt with by shops on the High St putting window displays like this up, which
Appear to be equating police with lies.This simply reinforces some young people’s mistaken distrust in all our police.
What if all shops did this sort of thing? Depending on the politics and leanings of their owners?
This is much worse than the Ratners mistake, which was a comment uttered by Gerald Ratner in private that their
Goods were crap.It won’t be worse in the sense that Ratners went bust over it, and Lush won’t, but what Lush have done,
Is a first for a retail outfit, in publicly going after the police
In this way.
If they are supporters of Corbyn and have done this in some sort of cack handed left wing ‘trumpeting’ (and it seems they have) then Lush have added to the growing dismay felt by many over the type of people he is attracting
To the Labour Party, the zealots, the revolutionaries, the bully boys, the ‘use any tactic’ types.

So if another pedophile ring is exposed it’s ok to say ‘men are pedophiles ?

Anniebach Slight exaggeration! We are talking about a campaign not a massacre!

The Lush UK Facebook page has received 30,000 negative reviews, mostly in the past 48 hours.
The campaign is set to run at all Lush shops in the UK until 17 June.

Can't help thinking that by the 17th June, they'll have done themselves so much damage they'll be lucky to survive.

Not an exaggeration, they have branded police liars, given the problems between police and some young people the police are going to be taunted by this

This is just one of the comments left on the Lush Facebook page:

Awoke to see Lush cosmetics undergoing the Ratners effect, the speed of people's responses
and the volume here may well leave them with a crashed brand by the time they open....
But that's what happens when you publically make sweeping generalisations about one of
our hard pressed emergency services eh ...
Lush, you had a good run on the high street, idiots .....

Interesting Chewbacca, I hope they lose some of their profits but I doubt they will

I'm not so sure Annie. If you have a look at their Facebook pages, there are many, many posts saying how disgracefully Lush have behaved towards the police force and there seems to be little sympathy or support for it. Not all free publicity is good publicity. Time will tell......

FGSNiggly my ggf was a serving police officer who died on duty ....so should Corbyn be blamed for HIS death? Get some perspective on this .I WORK for Police Scotland as part of my business.They are in my opinion (mostly) a great bunch of hard working ,committed ,honest individuals.There are the odd ones who we say will either end up chief constable or in JAILNot ALL police personal are saints or angels ...just like every other walk of life and while I'm very sorry for Annies loss ..it was a very long time ago and we cant be expected to tiptoe around her and bypass the truth.People are ALLOWED opinions ..or maybe not on here ?I just looked at my post as and I made NO derogatory comments about the Police ...I did mention AB 'S nemesis Corbyn.Maybe she could just bypass his name in post....or maybe not its usually her who brings him into the conversation.

Not all police are paid to lie , I need no sympathy from you Paddyann.

I agree people are allowed opinions, in my opinion Corbyn is a hypocrite intent on destroying the Labour Party.

I will still be a Lush shopper and a quick poll of my AC and their friends shows they won’t be abandoning the brand either. I suspect those who support them (even if not agreeing with this campaign) will continue to shop there. In our local store it’s mainly young people purchasing and our large population of foreign students (who won’t understand the campaign anyway) I can’t seem them abandoning the brand.

I am basing MY opinion on the fact that I have met EVERY single serving police officer in Scotland at least once over the past 40 years .As I said AB there are good and bad in all walks of life .In my opinion this has damn all to do with Corbyn ..and I'm not a labour member or fan .Its like the SNP bad thing here ..anything that happens is blamed on the SNP .. according to unionists ..except if its anything good.People with very narrow minds that cant see past their own predjudices

Lush profits will not be affected, more likely to increase, a cunning if nasty ploy.

Anyone remember how some posters predicted the end of Greggs because of the sausage roll Jesus? Talk about tomorrow’s cyberspace fish and chip paper - Lush were stupid, they are overall a good company, the behaviour of the undercover police in these instances was unacceptable, the police are still dragging their heels over this and the end of the review date keeps being extended, some police behave badly even appallingly - life is complicated and very disappointingly for some of you not all our problems are JC’s fault - get over it.

ab sometimes you know good people just make the wrong call.