England, no way sorry

If that's the case, Granny23, why can't Nationalists bring themselves to root for England in the World Cup, as per my link up thread? Scotland has no skin in the game so why not support your nearest neighbour, who you'll have to live next door to for a very long time, independence or not?

Scotland beat England at ODI cricket yesterday. Hurrah for them, I say! I'd have said the same if England had won - to me, it was a win:win situation. Best of both worlds.

secondly I must reiterate, once again, that I, and my fellow Scottish Nationalists DO NOT HATE the English
You may not Granny23 and I am sure you are lovely, but I don't think you can speak for everyone, even some on here.

And I was told by a Welsh colleague that she 'hated the English' (but not me so that was all right then).

We all have a cross to bear !!! Lucky we don't live in Syria!!
annie, you did make me laugh, sounds so like me!!!! ?

Lots of people in England are living under a government they didn’t vote for too.
I know that’s not quite what you meant granny23 but it is a fact.

Threads like conversations in the real world have a tendency to wander granny23 . At least Scotland has its own parliament which is more than we English have . Scotland make a lot of decisions for Scotland and yet England cannot make decisions for England which I find quite strange .

Maybe “hate” is too strong a word ( or maybe not ) but the Scottish nationalists seem to have a definite dislike of all things English .

Firstly, as this thread is about Water - "Scottish Water is a statutory corporation that provides water and sewerage services across Scotland. It is accountable to the public through the Scottish Government."

Secondly I must reiterate, once again, that I, and my fellow Scottish Nationalists DO NOT HATE the English (nor Welsh nor Irish) people. What we do resent is that we cannot make our own choices but have to abide by the choices/decisions made in Westminster by a government we did not vote for. That government can, and regularly does, reject any proposals or amendments, (even ones which affect Scotland only) put forward by the Scottish MPs. They can do this by sheer weight of numbers. Conversely, under EVEL legislation, Scottish MPs are excluded from the chamber and not allowed to vote on matters which are deemed to affect England or England and Wales only. This rule applies even if there is likely to be a knock on effect for Scotland because of this new legislation.

No Nfk, it does not ?

I don’t like football niggly, I use to belong to a forum when AOL existed. We decided to hold a draw for something, can’t recall now, I was draw master ! This led to draws for Wimbledon and several other events, some plonker, yes a chap, wanted one for the World Cup, I had to follow it so I could congratulate who ever’s team went through, had no idea what I was talking about ?, I was so bored , I drew a team from a country I had never heard of .

I’m not upset about James 1st. I don’t mind in the least that we had to have a Scottish King. In fact, I suppose that makes us all Scots.

nigglynellie, I agree I don't really care about the football either and we can't dine out forever on "1966" it seems that English football fans are forever destined to be disappointed and invest way too much hope in what often amounts to mediocre performances by the English team. Having said that what a great team Iceland were for such a small population so maybe she's picked well. However, I would back an English side in an international event, albeit in a luke warm way, perhaps making an exception for team GB during the Olympics who did us proud, I hasten to add drawn from all 4 nations within the British Isles.

Doubt whether the English of 1603 were consulted as to whether they wanted the mincing (allegedly) Scottish James V1. Would a Scottish king be more acceptable to a republican Scottish nationalist, there's a conundrum Perhaps they could draw some comfort from the fact that his son was executed and as a consequence altered the balance of power from then on.

Thanks Jalima. I Googled the wrong way and started with Welsh Water instead of Thames!

Of course, if the UK collapses and no one wants to live in London the problem is solved!

Why on earth should English people be upset about James 1st!! I doubt many people know anything about him or his unfortunate mother!! He was a Protestant, He was the G.Grandson. of James 1Vth and Henry V111th elder daughter Margaret, which is how he came to be king of Scotland/England, no problems with that!
I agree annie, an event 52 years old is quite absurd to keep on about! and doesn't say much for the intervening years! best kept quiet about I'd have thought!!! We're not football fans, so don't really care who wins, but would always ' back a 'home team' if asked, whichever country that happened to be. But, do you know if N.S were to back the dark side of the moon, I frankly could care less!!

I have several Scottish friends and they don't understand the bitterness either gillybob - but then so many of them live in England or Wales, but still have relatives in Scotland.

Are the English upset because Mary Queen of Scots' son became James 1 of England?

You don't have to follow the link, I won't mind if you don't

We were in Scotland for a wedding several years ago and were berated for being English because of what happened to Mary Queen of Scotts.

nigglenellie (to paddyann) "Honestly, are you for real!!";
are you?

sorry:

corporate.thameswater.co.uk/Media/News-releases/Consultation-to-shape-the-future-of-water-for-next-80-years

https://corporate.thameswater.co.uk/Media/News-releases/Consultation-to-shape-the-future-of-water-for-next-80-years

I think many of the Scottish "football fans" and plenty that aren't normally, would rather anyone won the world cup but England and will probably throw a party as soon as we leave the tournament . I really can't understand this bitterness. I would always want a "home team" to win or do well, be it England, Scotland, Wales or Ireland . We are one UK are we not?

Sadly I think maybe niggly is right and Scotland should hold a second (once in a lifetime) referendum or a third, fourth or fifth until they get the result that the England haters want.

Getting back to Annie’s original post - I don’t understand exactly the logistics and practicalities of how putting water into the canal system is going to top up the Thames enough to solve any drought problems. Does this Union person think the lock gates can all be left open and the water will just run down hill to London? Will all the canal boats need bigger engines to fight the flow? And what about the fish and eccological ramifications. Welsh water is completely different from Thames water. If the weather is dry it’ll all have evaporated way before Oxford anyway so it’d need to be piped. Perhaps they could put in a pipeline under the HS2. The more I think about it the more I believe it was just a throw away remark by a conceited bloke after a pint or two.

I hope England wins but dread the BBC coverage which will go on for years ?, we are still hearing ‘they think it’s all over, it is now’ . 52 years of that is a bit too much.

The welsh do not want to break away from the UK, I don’t want Scotland to break away and I so disagree with a United Ireland, many in the North want to remain in the U.K.

Perhaps Scotland can have another (once in a lifetime!) referendum and this time, fingers crossed, they can go off to the land of milk and honey, and leave the rest of us in peace!! Not quite sure how that hard border will work out or using the £ bearing in mind it will have to be tied to the Bank of England, if indeed an arrangement can be arrived at before the Euro (good luck with that!) can be brought into play!
Frankly Paddyann if your bitterness and anger is a sample of your countrymens attitude to us, then the sooner you're gone the better. We've had family in Scotland and had some wonderful holidays there and made some love friends, but frankly I wouldn't want to go there anymore! If you're still bitter about Edward 1st?!! I feel sorry for you! Lucky we in England don't still go on about the Norman Conquest and blame present day France!! How childish and tedious that would be, never mind going on about how old our flag is !! Honestly, are you for real!!

I think this brief video demonstrates how many Scots feel towards the English. No doubt it will be dismissed as 'bantz' or a joke but I think it expresses the underlying attitude.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-44424202/england-for-the-world-cup-snp-delegates-on-football-loyalties

I am another poster that thinks that the wealth of the UK should be fairly distributed over the whole kingdom.
However the other 3 countries ( not so sure about NI) want to be devolved so how can that work?

gillybob, I agree with your post, there are a few Scots who thinly disguise their extreme dislike of the English it's as if we have collectively morphed into "The Hammer of the Scots King" and responsible for all the injustices English governments' historically have ever committed against the Scots, cranked up by the fervour of a minority of Scottish Nationalists such as NS who will disingenuously deny it, saying something along the lines of "I've at least 2 English relatives/friends who I like".

Paddyann your posts always sound so angry, littered with shouty interjections, you do a very anti PR job for your country when I read your appraisal of the English I think good God I never want to go to Scotland again, fortunately we know some lovely Scots who we stay with when we go there and visa versa when they come down here. Nevertheless, many years ago my husband on a visit there was on the receiving end of anti English sentiments, for no other reason than simply because he was "English"

You are of course entitled to your opinions but one can't help notice how vehemently vitriolic some of your comments are particularly about the royal family.