England, no way sorry

Annebach but Wales does not have the monopoly on villages being sunk to provide water to other parts of the U.K., I think there are about four more, most of these being in the north of England.
The difference between a county and a country is an 'r' and we all exist on the same island (except of course NI).

Joelsnan, Capel Celyn was passed by a private act. There were no devolved parliaments when the reservoirs were built, surely Yorkshire is in the same country as Manchester?

Scotland and Wales are countries not regions of England.

Pamela, you didn’t , I am so sorry please accept my apologies.

Annie I didn’t say my family helped to pay for anything.

I wonder why some in Wales and Scotland go on about England controlling and subverting their countries when both have representation in the UK parliament and each has their own devolved government which England does not have. Yorkshire has a population larger than Wales and about equivalent to Scotland, over the centuries it provided much of the industrial wealth of the nation additionally it's reservoirs still provide water to such places as Manchester and yet we don't seem to get the 'Xenophobia' that is evident from other regions.

Heard it all before suzied, we pay tax too so you do not pay for us. This arrogance is the cause of a divided U.K. we are bigger than you so deal with it.

I don’t begrudge anyone water . I am angry with the arrogance of the union chap.

Oh gawd I wondered when we would start London bashing. There are more than twice as many people in London as in Wales. You’ve got lovely valleys, mountain scenery and you begrudge a bit of water to the city that generates the largest % of the countries wealth and pays more in tax than anywhere . So London pays a lot of the dole money, benefits and pensions for people in Wales. Would you rather have flooding? Would you rather live in England? I bet not.

Really Pamela? When was England controlled by the three other countries of the U.K ?

There is a most interesting video on uTube, underwater film of the homes and grave stones in the reservoir you proudly claimed your family helped to pay for.

What I meant Annie is that you seem to think that you get the bum end of almost everything because you are in Wales.
Well we get it too, we just don’t blame everything on the fact that it’s because we’re in England.

Nfk, you would never use the race card x

Everything seems to be about London doesn’t it? I admit my knowledge of cities and towns in England is not good, think I should use a map when we speak of areas of England,

Just remembered , I was on a forum for years until AOL sold off. Had a two day disagreement with a chap ,my best mate there, I was sure when driving from Wales to England over the bridge I was driving West because I use to love driving to the West Country, didn’t give a thought to the fact that West Wales was behind me , duh ?

Only bits of it Annie. Ask those of us in the Regions. The extremities. Forgotten bits. I wasn’t using the race card. Merely pointing out that we get dumped on and over-ruled too. Central Government has just realised that Norfolk is a nice place and may be just commutable to London. If they improve the roads and rail links. So - we now have a dual carriageway from Norwich all the way to London. Nowhere else. Just London.

Is Dereham in England ? If so how can the English ‘use the race card’ ?

Baggs, England has always thought of the greater good, ask the Scots, Irish and Welsh , problem is England has always seen it’s self as the greater.

I hadn’t heard about Dereham Nfk. how awful.
Just goes to show that Wales doesn’t have the monopoly on having unwanted schemes foisted on them!
We just don’t use the England card.
BTW I think we all need homes but the ones they build up here aren’t the type that are needed.

We’ll be back to the days of the Honey cart before we know it Baggs! Cesspits and keeping the weekly clothes wash water in barrels for the veggies. Them was the days. I remember them well! (We was posh - we had cess pit)

Jalima said "the rest of us are just mongrels." I say "speak for yourself". I am not a mongrel. I am a Pict.

Hardy and tenacious = hybrid vigour.

Great minds think alike, gd (even if not quite in gear!).

Mongrelisation that should be. Brain not in gear.

Re mongrolity (!), there's hybrid vigour to consider as well.

Re removing the race/nationality perspective: there doesn't seem to be resentment about the flooded valley reservoirs providing water to Manchester from the Pennines. People lived in those valleys too. People still do, only higher up than they used to.

I'm quite fond of mongrels! They are hardy and tenacious. ?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4182845/Genes-show-Welsh-are-the-true-Britons.html
The Welsh are the true Britons, the rest of us are just mongrels.

nfk, maybe Norfolk needs to start investing in composting toilets.

I think water in the wetter parts of the British Isles should be shared with people who live in the drier parts. Flooding a valley in which some people live is not ideal but if the water such a flooding collects helps tens of thousands of other people under the same government I don't think that government has done something intrinsically immoral.

I think if the national or race side of the issue in question were taken out of the equation, most people would agree in principle that something done for the greater good is worth doing. Of course those immediately affected should be properly compensated.

Good luck with your fight Pamela. There’s been continuous development after development in our town in north of Norfolk and we thought we’d found the answer to stopping any more when we heard the sewers can’t cope with any more building. The we heard that the last development in Dereham is still having their waste taken out daily by lorries!!

I think it would be more accurate to say that the Wales is nation whose inhabitants belong, for the most part, to the same race as most other inhabitants of the British Isles.