Well, I thought she was asking that question to show that
a) she does care - Do You?
b) she is hoping that others will join her in that sentiment
c) she was sending a strong message to her husband (I bet there were a few fireworks chez Trump over this issue - it is not often that she speaks out.
as suzied says - perhaps she is saying two fingers to him
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Melania’s Jacket deserves a thread of its own
(107 Posts)How, how, how could that happen? Is she completely devoid of any sense or empathy at all? You go to visit caged children who have been ripped from their parents and you wear a jacket proclaiming ‘ I really don’t care, do you?’
Melania is more popular than her husband, but that bar is set pretty low. Maybe she’s fallen out with the orange one and the visit and coat was two fingers to him. That’s what I’m hoping.
The cryptic message on Melania's jacket was "I don't care. Do you?"
The challenge in the message is to ask who cares. Apparently Melania saw the need to get people to ask themselves that question . Nobody who wears that slogan, including Melania, is so stupid as to assert that they don't care.
Minerva
Yes we actually shot our foot right off voting to come out .... I will put my hands up and say that but I voted to remain .... I have an American friend and os lovely ... I have to be diplomatic as she adores trump ... I do tell her he’s a loose cannon at times though ... he’s actually just clueless .... you can’t call Mexicans Kayotes .... it’s wrong ... USA ... should kick off about that and guns but do they ? ..... ideals are totally different to ours ... if Teresa may had worn that jacket she would have beeen sectioned tbh .... we just don’t stand for such inappropriate behaviour by people reperesenting our country and in charge ... God help us if Corbyn becomes prime minister ... you just don’t do that ... good intentions or not it has blatantly sent mixed messages around the world ... good heavens her husband and her are a true love match aren’t they ? The poor children ... terrified ... I can’t bear the thought ...
Devorgilla
Your daughter is right. Plenty of Psychology research on it going back years and all replicated showing it to be an enduring trait in human nature. Even down to distancing from innocent victims of disasters, wars or whatever. The theory is once we see them as "not like us" then we can think what is happening to them won't happen to us. It goes further, if people are innocent victims, there is a tendency to "blame" them for their condition somehow. Just mildly. So that again, we can think it won't happen to us because we won't do what they did.
As for the Trump phenomenon, I am just completely speechless. I was looking for a particular matter on youtube a day or two ago and came across a lot of otherwise apparently decent caring people from the States all saying how good he is for their country. I have become very depressed lately. I'm afraid that the Clintons did a lot of very wicked things too.
She has no excuses for the jacket. It is a crass and vile thing to do.
Can anyone tell me if Zara sell the jacket with the slogan on it, or had someone painted it on. It looked horrible. At first I thought someone had painted it on and FLOTUS put it on without noticing the words but that is probably not the case, and as has been said she isn't likely to wear such a jacket at that price and in that heat.
It maybe a message to her husband about the trip, perhaps he didn’t want her to go.
Of course she wasn’t saying it about the children but she might as well have been because what she and he are doing is behaving like two spoilt kids and playing this out against the backdrop of the children and this is absolutely unforgivable. POTUS and FLOTUS - how dare they? They have no respect whatsoever for the position they hold nationally and internationally and the damage they are doing.
I thought the message was deliberate, but I didn’t think Melania was saying she didn’t care about the children, but that she didn’t care what DT thought about her campaign in defence of the children. Probably had just had an argument with DT and threw it on as a protest.
I might be wrong here, I didn’t think she wore it when visiting the detention centre, just onto the plane.
Benefit of the doubt? You must be star struck
I thought that was the case, so I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt and think that she was getting at Donald without realising the alternate message she was giving out.
The trouble is, I quite like her!
They are playing out their totally disasterous marriage in front of the world’s press whilst children are being bussed hundreds/ thousands of miles away from their parents
No she’s an immigrant ( you couldn’t make it up could you) with whose visa there was a great deal,of jiggery pokery
If Donald said it was to do with fake news to cover up I definitely think it was aimed at him!
(Is English Melania’s first language?)
That whole family need putting on an island and leaving
Utterly DISGUSTING
of course she knew what the slogan meant and if she didn’t then she’s thick how on earth can she wear a jacket with that slogan on to go to the very place it’s referring to and then say oh it didn’t mean that. It is crass, vile, horrible and time the world spoke out against them
She knew exactly what she was doing.
A model in a former life.
Always wears designer clothes.
On this occasion she chooses a 2 year old jacket from Zara
I can't believe that anyone would wear such a jacket at any time or in any place. To make a statement that you don't care is tantamount to telling everyone to take a hike as the person cares about nothing but themselves. And wearing such an item is just as bad as saying the phrase.
Melania obviously has a number of advisors. The advisor who told her to make that visit and the advisor who wrote her script got it right. The advisor who told her to were that silly jacket got it spectacularly wrong.
Trump and her are a bloody disgrace and so is the Republican Party to let trump get away with it. When I think about all the things Obama tried to put through for the good of the people it was always stopped by the republicans.
Of course she didn’t mean it to be applied to the children - but it shows how completely unthinking, uncaring and frankly stupid she is to have worn it. She’s FLOTUS for goodness sake not a reality TV star - oh wait a minute....
I take a totally different viewpoint to many expressed on here. I think she’s siding with her husband about ‘fake news’ in that DT’s administration isn’t the only one to have separated kids from their parents. Obama did it too. Some comment in the USA news is that DT’s detractors want to push against his (limited) engagement with N. Korea. Who knows? But she’s not stupid by any means.
I feel sorry for Melania. Michelle Obama is a hard act to follow.
Mind you, I think almost anyone would find Michelle O a hard act to follow.
Do husbands who do things we don't like get judged in the same way as wives?
I'm finding it hard to believe the words on the jacket were about the children. That assumption doesn't make sense, as some people have pointed out already. Whereas, the assumption that the slogan is about the media does make sense without any stretch of imagination.
Someone mentioned Occam's Razor on another thread recently. Applying it here makes the latter interpretation about the jacket the more likely one when Melania had already said she cared about the children.
I've just seen the jacket. I doubt that she meant it to be applied to the plight of the children but the very fact that she didn't realise how inappropriate it was to wear it speaks volumes.
inishowen: She has sex with Donald Trump. Enough said.
Donald Trump has sex with her. As well as others. She has been known to "walk into doors".
The unusual thing here was that she went to see the children on her own account, not where she was told she had to be.
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