Likely consequenses of brexit

www.therobotreport.com/the-agricultural-labor-conundrum/

it s estimated about 47% of agriculture jobs could be estimated. Of course automation will bring jobs for highly skilled IT and automation specialists - but not for the majority of low skill UK unemployed. Same in car production, etc, etc.

Not that I can link to. Remember the documentary on several unemployed men being given jobs in East Anglia picking veg last year? The owner said it clearly several times- as some of the men did not turn up after 1 day or 2, and made mistakes, putting the wrong number of caulis, lettuces in boxes to go to supermarkets - which he said would be returned and wasted. He said if local unemployed will not get out of bed, turn out day after day, in all weathers, and get it wrong - then he could not employ them or go our of business as margins are so so small. He went on to sy if he can't employ cheap and reliable East Europeans, who are not fussy with accomodation and prepared to work for a low wage - then automation would be the oly way forward.

Rees-Mogg reiterated that in the Independent Debate very recently. He said that the availability of low wage East EZU workers prevented investment in agriculture - eg automation.

Jura can you support your statements?

They say low wages prevent investment into automation - so no jobs for the poor unskilled unemployed of the UK for sure. Same in stores (the reason I never use self check tills) and so many other fields.

Robots to care for the elderly in OAP homes - hurrah.

No legal obligation in USA to give paid holidays- those who do give workers 2 weeks. No paid maternity leave either. You can be sacked wihout reason or redress- zero hours contracts, etc, etc.

Take back control.

One of the main reasons Rees Mogg and co want to get rid of unskilled workers from Eastern EU, is to encourage investment in agriculture.

You do realise what that means?

Same in other industries and businesses, including stores, transport, etc, etc.

MaizieD yes, of course she can speak for herself but you wrote that post to me.

Well, let's hope they are not in charge, they are falling by the wayside.

Dominic Raab wants much of that legislation cast aside- he wants to make it easier to hire and fire and make people work more than 48 hours a week plus take away the responsibility for employers to have to pay minimum wage. You can find clips of him saying all this on various programmes.

As, I believe, some of the Brexit Ultras are looking forward to repealing some legislation on workers' rights post Brexit, Jalima, I wouldn't be too confident about its retention in UK law.

"By cutting and pasting enormous chunks Ally runs the risk of people not being bothered to read her posts at all and thus her being cut out of discussions."
Or putting an end to discussion, which could be the aim here.

I expect Ally is well able to speak for herself at length lemon

It would need to be updated, so presumably some of the EU legislation will automatically be enshrined in UK law.

So, presumably, this is all still part of our legislation unless it was superseded by EU regulations, or should automatically become enshrined in our laws after Brexit.

I'm not sure that all of EU legislation on workers' rights is covered by UK legislation made prior to EU legislation. But I'm afraid I don't have time to research it at the moment

I think Ally is willing to take that risk MaizieD.

I may have missed something pertinent to the discussion when I posted

mostly....do check out other threads, where many others are happily cutting and pasting info, and nobody says a word!
Of course, why should they? But sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander IMO.

I don't think anybody objbects to cut and paste, per se, lemon. It's just a question of degree.

Most people just cut and paste a bit they think is particularly pertinent to the point they are making and give a link so that people can read more if they want to. By cutting and pasting enormous chunks Ally runs the risk of people not being bothered to read her posts at all and thus her being cut out of discussions.

So, presumably, this is all still part of our legislation unless it was superseded by EU regulations, or should automatically become enshrined in our laws after Brexit.

we are talking about all those wonderful pre and post EU legistlation on workers' rights being threatened at the moment by Brexit. But yes, agreed that much of it was pre EU - we, the UK, have actually ensured that it is included in EU regs for the benefit of all.

Chewbacca it's a good thing that threads are governed by the number of posts and not by the length.

I am losing the will to read
nothing I say or do will make any difference except my X on the ballot paper.

ally. Have you actually read any history or do you just fly to wikipedia for things to copy and paste?

The gulf between acts on the Statute book and the implementation of those acts was immense.

I think you'd be better off looking at EU legislation on workers' rights and UK legislation since 1973 if you want to see if UK legislation was superior and/or EU legislation redundant

Apologies, that sounded rude.

Flippin eck Jura that's the longest post I've ever seen on GN. lost the will to live

mostly....do check out other threads, where many others are happily cutting and pasting info, and nobody says a word!
Of course, why should they? But sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander IMO.
Don’t read it if you don’t want to, it’s not compulsary, but unlike links, it doesn’t take you away from the page.

mostly what a good idea! Thanks for your advice.

allyg why don’t you start your own blog.
That way you could cut’n’paste to your heart’s content and wouldn’t have other posters questioning your reasoning, your sources and your grammar.