Likely consequenses of brexit

I fully understand any country wanting independence, and if Scotland vote that way in the future, good luck to them Likewise Catalonia, although that has been ruthlessly stamped on!
Just as many of us are looking forward to being free of the
Clutches of Brussels.

Sad to say terms such as Little band of Brexitextreemists & Remaining Remoaners is a sad reflection of how infantile & childlike we all really are underneath our veneer of being sensible grown ups trying to do the best for our country & our inhabitants . It’s just a bigger Playground., sorry but I can’t help adding a nahnahnenahnah ?

There are people who believe they should never talk politics for fear of falling out. Of course lots of folk who have little or no interest in politics and if the subject is raised will resort to some slogan or newspaper headline.

Not long ago I went to a funeral of a chap in his eighties. The large church was packed but I managed to find a seat next to an ex work colleague. He asked how I knew the 'dear departed and when I old him it was through the LibDems, he said "you mustn't have anything to do with politics or you won't have any friends". I said "Do you really think so?", looking round the crowded church which by this time was standing room only!

Sorry this is not really about brexit, except that I think if more people talked about politics and were better Informed we might not be in this mess.

Yes definitely Varian, I agree

I doubt that in reality many will pack up and go and work in a EU country, no matter what they say on forums.

Believe you me, they've either already gone or have made serious preparations.

If Brexit happens. That is what is happening, the people chose. We are a Democacy, despite attempts by a lot of disgruntled people who want to keep having referendums until they get the result they want. This is such a waste of time, effort and money. Work together to get the best deal for Great Britain. I can't wait until the fishermen, who do such a valuable and perilous job, can finally get to have control over our waters.

^ I can't wait until the fishermen, who do such a valuable and perilous job, can finally get to have control over our waters.^

There seems to be some doubt about this, Luckylegs

There are only two ways of achieving a bigger catch for the UK, said Ruth Westcott of Sustain, an alliance of food and farming advocates: to repatriate some of the nearly 60% of the UK’s fish stocks currently allocated – in some cases, rented or sold by UK fishermen – to foreign-owned vessels, or to discover new or under-exploited fishing stocks. The latter is extremely unlikely, unless the government is prepared to water down its commitments not to overexploit species.

As for repatriating fishing rights in UK waters currently held by other EU fleets, ministers will face stiff opposition. “This would involve the EU and Norway saying yes they are happy with this, which is a fantasy,” said Westcott.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/06/uk-fishing-fleets-unlikely-to-gain-from-brexit-despite-goves-claims-say-experts?CMP=share_btn_tw

Maizie, indeed they are ready to go... doctors, nurses, teachers, CEOs and owners of igh tax paying companies ad many more... all people of very high calibre. And all those who have recently applied in droves for Irish passports and other dual EU nationalities.

... and most are preparing to take their knowledge, business and investments with them ... and of course all the tax that goes with the above.

If you talk to your friends/relatives etc the way you talk to others on forums Varian ( about politics....re the referendum) pretty soon you wouldn’t have anyone to talk to at all.
Unless you only mix with those who voted Remain and shun anyone who didn’t!
There have been posts on GN from people who have fallen out with their families over how they voted, which is pretty stupid to get into that scenario.

The vote wasn’t like normal politics after all, and was split across all parties.

Lucky, a vote with such a tiny minority, now PROVEN to have bin won on huge lies and fraudulent methods, just cannot in any way, represent 'Democracy'. Even more so in a country with a Century old system of Representative Democracy, and in one which, by its OWN laws, states that a Referendum can only ever be advisory.

It’s not so easy to up sticks and move the entire family who have jobs, schools, friends, lives in the UK, and not many can do it, unless they are from another EU country in the first place.
I don’t think a mass exodus will take place at all.

What does need to end soon is the uncertainty about how we are leaving the EU, and hopefully, it soon will be.

Project fear was one big lie!!

well. wait and see, the ones I know are ready indeed. What about all the EU doctors, nurses, teachers, key job holders, CEOs and business owners... they have been leaving in droves already, leaving NHS even more vulnerable.
What about all the big businesses that have recently said they could not operate effectively after Brexit... do you think their workers will stay and sign on the dole, or go wherever when invited with great relocation packages and much higher salaries?

Project Fear was about Brexit, eg POST Brexit ... you ain't seen nothing yet.

BTW 1000s would leave for so many reasons, uncertainty, job relocation, better conditions and salaries and quality of life, education, etc....

but also because many EU and other foreign workers, at all levels, send money back home, or save to return home later or in retirement, and if Sterling plummets even further ... it will just not be worth it.

Lemongrove: ^Just as many of us are looking forward to being free of the
Clutches of Brussels^.

Better the devil you know...

I am an EU-national and have lived and worked in the UK for 45 years. I don't think many Brits under 40 understand the transformation this country has undergone since joining the EU. When left to our own devices there is a palpable inertia. We drag our feet. We know things could be done more efficiently but hey-ho, never mind. We often let things go desperately wrong and then there is a knee-jerk reaction.
I love this country dearly. I love its people but I now fear for them.

When left to our own devices there is a palpable inertia. We drag our feet
Really?

Of course the country has undergone a transformation - it would have done so within or without the EU!

There are some of us who welcome you Greta and would wish more than anything that this awful fraudulent referendum had never been allowed to happen. It has opened up a can of worms and brought out the very worst aspects of Little England. Quite shameful.

Inertia? that would be the EU !

Varian is a one person band for singing the EU’s praises for the last two years.I actually admire your stamina, but think it’s misplaced.

Thank you for the compliment but I am certainly not a one person band. I am one of the majority of British citizens who did not vote leave and right now would prefer to remain in the EU. That is the will of the people of whom I am only one.

In 2015 the uk was voted the top entrepreneurial country in Europe. Even better, it was voted 4th in the world out of 130 countries. All 4 countries were English speaking.
Not bad, eh for a no nothing, lazy, backward looking country, is it.
Oh, and it must be true, it was in the Guardian