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notanan2 Fri 06-Jul-18 12:16:59

Im not at all pro trump but IMO this is awful

It is not a "protest". Ive been on protests. They have a point and an aim

What is point/aim here?
That they don't like his appearance & don't want UK to even try to negotiate?
They don't want us to be the "bigger person" as a nation? they want us to be as childish and petty as him?

Its embarrassing and diplomatically dangerous, NOT an exercise in constructive protect or free speech

lemongrove Sun 08-Jul-18 22:37:04

That was to mcem btw

lemongrove Sun 08-Jul-18 22:36:36

I could say the same to you dear !
Yes, others, as in other posters, all moaning about the wording by another poster, and feeling righteous about it.

absent Sun 08-Jul-18 22:36:24

I agree that there are many injustices committed by the leaders of many countries, some, perhaps, more egregious than Donald Trump's. (I think taking babies and children hostage to force asylum-seeking parents out of the country ranks pretty highly on the loathsome scale.) What people here seem to be overlooking, although I admit I haven't read every single post, is how dangerous this man is. He is gagging for "his" war, Afghanistan and Iraq are hangovers and don't, therefore, redound to his credit. He has threatened North Korea with a nuclear attack, although he is currently trying to convince the world of the value of his non-existent deal with Kim Jong-un; he has speculated about invading Venezeula; he is iffy about NATO; and he is planning a vast increase on the USA's nuclear arsenal.

mcem Sun 08-Jul-18 22:31:45

Others? Are we getting back to cliques and gangs? And do you see nothing wrong with the way I was brought to book for not replying (when I had) and that fennel was rebuked for answering a question because it wasn't addressed directly to her? Just how many times did she say I hadn't answered her question?
Come on, dear. Get a grip.

lemongrove Sun 08-Jul-18 22:17:50

You and others may see what you think is bossyness, I see what you and others do are bullying tactics.

lemongrove Sun 08-Jul-18 22:16:21

The bitching is all from the other side mcem sadly it seems to be getting worse.

mcem Sun 08-Jul-18 22:13:54

Glad you agree lemon.
It isn't on, is it, to imply that a poster should be available to reply to a question and then complain that the answer isn't forthcoming when it's sitting there waiting to be read.
Neither is it reasonable to discard a perfectly good reply because a poster demands the reply only from the person to whom the question was put!
We can do without this level of bossiness and the
"I 'm in charge of this discussion" attitude.

lemongrove Sun 08-Jul-18 22:02:19

So much bitching going on!

crystaltipps Sun 08-Jul-18 21:41:45

Too busy reading Wikipedia.

mcem Sun 08-Jul-18 20:43:34

After ally made it clear that I should have replied more promptly to her question ( which WAS answered by fennel) I was surprised that she was unaware of my eagerly awaited reply. She then posted yet again saying that she was still waiting.
Now I am even more surprised that she hasn't returned.
Perhaps too busy rewriting the rule book.

Iam64 Sun 08-Jul-18 19:07:28

HildaW, you are so right in saying we can ask a question, answer of we wish or just sound off. I've got myself caught up in a couple of lengthy disagreements recently. Not something I do in RL and something I don't do often on gnet. Waste of time and rather debilitating - much better to act as you suggest.

HildaW Sun 08-Jul-18 17:50:25

mcem - yes, its a forum not a face to face discussion.....we can drop in and ask a question, answer if we wish or just sound off.....all perfectly valid.

mcem Sun 08-Jul-18 17:24:19

Perfectly reasonable hilda - just not the solution to ally's demand for my reply when fennel knew and understood why I was saying what I did.
Not my place to make sure that posters are actually au fait with facts concerning the points under discussion.
Fortunately fennel was, and gave a clear and reasonable response.
It's a bit much to be reminded that an answer is required half-an-hour after it was posted!

HildaW Sun 08-Jul-18 17:14:03

Allyran1, I think I will stand by my post. As in life and for many different reasons, sometimes you just let the other person have the last word and walk away.

mcem Sun 08-Jul-18 17:13:44

Not post we but poster!

mcem Sun 08-Jul-18 17:12:31

ally please note that I posted at 16.28, a full half-hour before you said you were still awaiting my reply.
As you'll see, I 'm quite happy with fennel's comment as she clearly understood what I was saying earlier.
Do we need some rigid new guidelines whereby we have to check with a post we before expressing an opinion that chimes with hers??
My lack of response at the time was in no way significant.
I was out!

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 17:05:59

HildaW, I think that is right to a point. But it is pointless having a site like this if people don't respond, when someone responds to them don't you think? Especially when the post is not clear and a direct question is politely asked for.

HildaW Sun 08-Jul-18 17:01:41

Hmmm, on a forum I've always viewed 'not responding' as a form of response in itself. Sometimes arguments can be counter productive, little is explained or resolved and there is nothing wrong in tactfully withdrawing from a discussion, for whatever reason.

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 16:59:00

should be mcem sorry!

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 16:58:33

I am still waiting for mcdm to respond to me. If she or he does not want to do that, then she should give her proxy to Fennel, unless, there is some other reason for them speaking for each other.

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 16:56:33

Bridget thank you for your so helpful comments. Sadly, a direct question to a poster really is for that poster. Are you suggesting that I privately correspond with mcdm? As you say everyone can join in, but no one, simply no one can answer for another poster. You can say what you think , what you view is but it is simply impossible to speak for another poster who has been asked a direct question.

mcem Sun 08-Jul-18 16:28:33

fennel thank you for providing the answer to the Trump in Scotland question while I was out shopping. You got it spot on!
Clearly you are aware of his golf-related antics and understand the situation.
I wish he weren't coming to Scotland and I hope that when he does, that he is well aware of how unpopular he is here!
There was a suggestion on Andrew Marr's programme this morning that he thinks he is more popular North of the border than south.
Let's hope he's in for a rude awakening!

Bridgeit Sun 08-Jul-18 16:19:39

Anyone & everyone on here posts replies to comments as they see fit , a direct question is usually answered by the intended poster, with others passing comments, it is not an either or situation, that is why we have a Private message facility. Obvious really, but happy to help ?

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 16:15:45

PECS the attention to the two Mayors is probably because they were mentioned in connection with the visit of Trump and their reactions to that visit.

The point is that it seems they are getting attention because they are the only two that seem to have reacted to the Trump visit. Not for any other reason.

Allygran1 Sun 08-Jul-18 16:11:44

Whatever you say Fennel!