Trump Blimp

Yes really Jalima

I guess it’s just that some injustices are worse than other injustices, there is a scale of injustice unfortunately. I wish there were no injustice in the world, but that’s not going to happen in my lifetime I’m afraid. Whether or not people protest is really up to them, but at the end of the day, what posters are discussing here appears to be the scale of injustice, and which particular injustice they find most upsetting. For me, Assad is definitely more evil and has facilitated more injustice than Trump. That’s my opinion, but do not read into that, that I approve of how Trump has behaved.

I don’t wish to go on a demo about the countries POGS wishes to demonstrate against, buts if she organises one I may consider it. I have been on a few demos in my time NHS hospital closures , anti war and the like. I won’t be going on an anti Trump demo but I think people should have the freedom to do so. I think the idea that you can’t demonstrate against a certain thing unless you demonstrate about all the other injustices in the world is a bit bonkers.

Really PECS?

China?
Myanmar?
Chile?
and who can forget the love-in between Blair and Gaddafi?

I am sure there must be more

Actually there are quite a lot of protest movements that do challenge other regimes. Generally I do not think UK gov have invited leaders of said countries for an official visit.

I take it you don't feel hat strongly about those countries that POGS has mentioned suzied - well, not as strongly as posters on here do about Trump's visit.

Nothing to stop you going to those embassies and organising a demo POGS if you feel so strongly about it. It’s called freedom of speech.

We as a country base our reputation on standing up for human rights, fighting for the under dog, preserving freedom and speaking out against those who threaten to destroy these concepts.
Yes, I agree and I hope we do trisher

and that is why what POGS has posted is so puzzling:

The hypocrisy of going to town to show disapproval of Donal Trump eludes me. I wish the protesters would go to the Embassies of Syria, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Burma/Myanmar where 1000's have either gone missing, imprisoned, killed or fleeing conflict but the likes of Aung San Suu Kyi were feted and goodness knows how Iran and Assad of Syria get away with so little complaint from some.

The hypocrisy of going to town to show disapproval of Donal Trump eludes me. I wish the protesters would go to the Embassies of Syria, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Burma/Myanmar where 1000's have either gone missing, imprisoned, killed or fleeing conflict but the likes of Aung San Suu Kyi were feted and goodness knows how Iran and Assad of Syria get away with so little complaint from some.
I do agree with that POGS - and it is the POTUS who has been invited here, regardless of who is in the position at any time.

Rather than protest or fly silly balloons, those who wish to could just ignore him, as I suggested above.

I think ignoring him is the best protest we could all make.
He has such an inflated ego that he may well think that this Blimp balloon is a welcome for him.

I am sure he hates to be ignored.

Trisher... You quoted me in that post! if you didn't want me to reply and just wanted to make a general point, maybe don't address the post to my username?

notanan2 on't you get tired of picking others posts to bits? Those are the people we want to show support for and will.

It isn't hateful to protest. It is a peaceful means of showing opposition. It is amazing how many people seem to know how Donald Trump thinks. This is a man who can't even tweet a considered opinion. There will be crowds and I wonder how many of those opposing this Blimp will be amongst them. Not many I bet, because beside opposing the Blimp they actually endorse some of Trump's policies. And how the Blimp can be hateful I don't know-it's a sodding balloon FGS.

There are many Americans who dislike the policies being put in place and those are the people I identify with. .

Those aren't the people whose minds we want to change though are they?

I’ve said I think the blimp is not a good idea because it detracts from the evil that is DT. But for anyone to suggest the remotest moral equivalence between flying a blimp and DTs words and actions is ludicrous. Really ludicrous. Flying the blimp is not dealing in hate, fear and division - just read about his latest speech for more examples of that.

Mary it is "like" him because he deals in hate, fear and division.

The way to really get at him is to not act hatefully... he knows how to play/control divided people full of hate. It doesn't matter to him whether the hate is directed at him or on his side, either way its the tool of his trade.

He wouldn't know what to do with a pragmatic crowd!

Good post notanan 16.12.40.

We’re best friends forever Chewy now ( and we haven’t even met!) the wonders of the internet hey?

Chew just like your bff lemon you post that the blimp makes us look as ridiculous as Trump - how absolutely pathetic. DT is not ridiculous , he is dangerous and evil. How dare you say that flying the blimp makes us like him- now that is ridiculous quite frankly. You clearly know absolutely nothing about him or else you do and you think what he does is ‘ridiculous’.

Sorry, peaceful protest should not be compared with war.It has always been a means for the people of democratic countries to express their views. I suppose believing this makes me a "Nasty Woman", like Hilary.

no real opinion on the balloon,although it really just feeds his vitriol,
it cannot be flown around,it is a tethered ballon,best you are gonna get is about 90ft in altitude.think macys cartoon balloons for xmas parade.
but would very much like to have it in october for our new mexico hot air ballon festival,
would make a great target..............

I refuse to accept the views of people who are racist, xenophobic and bigoted.

peacekeepers don't "accept" views. They just listen to them without belittling. Half the time that alone is enough to take a volatile situation off the boil.

But when being righteous matters more than the end goal, nothing gets better. Things just get worse & more polarised. Support for extremists strengthen. And people like Trump enjoy the spoils.

Unfortunately his itinerary brings him to Scotland.
I'll watch with interest what happens here as lots of protests are planned but I 'll watch from a distance as I'll be in France with the DGCs.

I refuse to accept the views of people who are racist, xenophobic and bigoted. Most Americans didn't vote for Trump anyway.

Would the blimp be "funny, irreverent and different" if it was of Jeremy Corbyn or Sadiq Khan? Or is it only foreign/overseas visiting politicians, whose ideas we find unacceptable, that we can ridicule? Someone up thread said that Trump is childish and that why the blimp was chosen. Protest against him by all means, he deserves it -- and more--, but this "protest" is as childish as he is. It makes us look as as ridiculous as Trump is.