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Acid attack on a child

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Anniebach Sun 22-Jul-18 13:09:08

This has terrified me. A 3 year old child has been the victim of an acid attack in Worcester. A 39 year old man in custody, three men caught on camera being traced by the police .

PECS Wed 25-Jul-18 19:36:37

Not sure why it matters where these people are from. If they are the perpetrators they have behaved in a dreadful way, contrary to common decency and the law of the land. There are evil doers within every nationality / race/ religion/ belief group/ class/ economic group etc
By focusing on the nationality of the wrong doer media can inadvertently give rise to racism and fire up the ectremists in society.

M0nica Wed 25-Jul-18 19:25:02

Looking at the names of the accused, father not named, they seem more likely to be Roma, also suggested, than Afghani.

MissAdventure Wed 25-Jul-18 18:12:59

I really can't say I'm surprised about that, sadly.

OldMeg Wed 25-Jul-18 18:03:04

His father is one of the men charged ??

Anniebach Wed 25-Jul-18 11:22:29

knickas, is it definite the family are Afghan?

MissAdventure Wed 25-Jul-18 11:18:33

I think acid attacks need their own category of crime.
Its repulsive, and aims to strip the victims identity away along with their skin.
Its on the increase too.

knickas63 Wed 25-Jul-18 11:14:24

Annie - I think the Afghan husband hired the Eastern European me to carry out the attack. I think all 4 should be deported - after a prison! (preferably breaking rocks!)

Anniebach Wed 25-Jul-18 11:14:05

I doubt identifying character traits would make much difference. A woman, perhaps lonely, meets a chap,is attracted to him, things develope, they are not going to look for character traits at the start of the relationship. There are women who allowed their children suffer abuse rather leave the man too.

Blinko Wed 25-Jul-18 10:57:59

Agreed, PECS. I think we need to go further to try and identify character traits so people are aware what to look for in a prospective partner, before it gets to the stage of serious harm and/or murder.

PECS Wed 25-Jul-18 10:41:27

Blinko I am sure there are studies. Probably what got law changed to recognise emotional control/ abuse as part of domestic violence

Anniebach Wed 25-Jul-18 10:22:15

They are not condoned Blinko but they do take place in our society

Blinko Wed 25-Jul-18 10:12:49

This and other domestic abuse cases do raise the issue of what makes any man (ok, and some women) go to such lengths to establish violent control. We need to address that, as a society. The perpetrators need to be studied and reasons for their behaviour deconstructed to seek solutions. Doubt whether this is happening.

Blinko Wed 25-Jul-18 10:09:50

True, ab. We do not live in a perfect world. However the cases you cite are not condoned by society at large.

Anniebach Wed 25-Jul-18 09:23:24

Thank you Iam, so possibly not a honour attack .

Iam64 Wed 25-Jul-18 09:18:44

He was Annie - the papers this morning are saying Roma community. I hope I'm not spreading fake news

Anniebach Wed 25-Jul-18 09:17:11

The first man arrested was described by eye witnesses as tall, thin, white.

Iam64 Wed 25-Jul-18 09:15:19

We shouldn't forget that in the UK, two women are killed every week by their partner/ex partner. (government figures 2017). The time they're most at risk is when they leave. That's one of the reasons so many women remain in abusive relationships. Their partner tells them if they do leave, they'll be hunted down and killed. Levels of violence and emotional control these women have experienced over long periods has them believing the threats (with good reason)

This woman was living in a safe house, which suggests the police and other agencies considered her to be in a very high risk category. The news today reports that the attack was carried out my men from the Roma community. The suggestion is that the father/ex partner discovered where the family were hiding after a photograph of one of his children at a school appeared in a news paper . He then paid the men to carry out an acid attack on his ex partner, the attack went wrong and the child was injured.

Its horrific, anyone who has worked with victims of domestic abuse will know of similarly dreadful situations. Let's hope this woman and her children can be safely re-housed, try once again to rebuild their lives and achieve a degree of calm.

Chewbacca Wed 25-Jul-18 09:03:48

Agreed Blinko. Doubt it will happen though.

Anniebach Wed 25-Jul-18 09:00:15

Not that civilised, remembering the adults who attacked a police van taking two little boys to court, and how many women are killed in domestic abuse attacks. 2016 - 113 women murdered.

Jane10 Wed 25-Jul-18 08:43:15

Absolutely Blinko! This is simply unacceptable.

Blinko Wed 25-Jul-18 08:28:48

Is it too much to hope that these men are deported, if/when found guilty. These are not values that a civilised society can condone, surely.

Oldwoman70 Wed 25-Jul-18 08:19:48

It has been reported the woman was an Afghan, hiding from her abusive husband and that the attack was meant for her. Apparently a photograph appeared of her not wearing a veil, so an "honour" attack maybe. Using acid to attack someone - especially women - appears to happening more frequently, there needs to be a new law specifically against it which carries a very heavy sentence.

Grandma70s Wed 25-Jul-18 08:07:11

It seems a bit strange that five men have been arrested. Why so many?

M0nica Wed 25-Jul-18 07:14:22

Yes, I thought family or drugs related.

gillybob Tue 24-Jul-18 23:33:05

Sadly I am not in the slightest bit surprised. Poor little baby . Poor mum. What a way to live . sad