Labour Party and anti semitism

True Iam, but I firmly believe it is true and now Trevor Phillips has said the same . Corbyn devotees will continue to deny it is true and claim it’s false news or the right wing press lying.

There is no hope for the return of the true Labour Party, it is dead.

I accept we go round in circles with this issue, no one seems likely to have a significant change of mind.

When you have Trevor Phillips supporting Chuka Umunna's view that the LP is institutionally racist, it's surely impossible to deny we have a problem (Houston)

Trevor Phillips supports Chuka Umunna , the Labour Party is instutionally racist.

Trevor Phillips also said Corbyn is anti semetic

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-chuka-umunna-says-13216603

Thank you both, it was some years ago that we discussed this.

Or HaShem literally 'the name'

Yes AB that is correct except there is another H - YHWH

In the Jerusalem Bible the name Yaweh is given , I believe in Judaism it is spelt with just consonants which are too sacred to speak . YWH or similar .

One of the Bible Studies i chaired , we studied different books, but this one was a few years ago so I may be wrong with YWH .

AB, I think it is the Jewish religion that does not utter the name of God. They certainly don't write it in full in their scriptures.

I suppose so OldMeg.

trisher that is the most likely scenario.

Not quite. That’s been the sticking point

I thought it had been established that anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism were not the same thing?

trisher

Who would they be then?

As you say, “there may be” but there may not be

It has occurred to me that there may be some people who have an interest in not wanting to see a left wing government that would support the Palestinian people, recognise a Palestinian state (which has been passed but not acted on), agitate at the UN for the admission of Palestine and ask that Israel be admonished for not complying with UN resolutions. Would they use anti-semitic accusations to prevent such a thing? I think some might.

Suppose saying ‘the mighty one’ or heaven forbid -

The honourable one’ instead of the name would be acceptable ?

Isn’t there a religion where their God’s name is too revered to be uttered ?

Thread title - Labour Party and anti semetism

Joan Ryan is a Labour MP, vote of no confidence , reason ?

Smeared Corbyn’s character.

Took place yesterday ,

Puzzling - how can this mornings news be branded ‘ same old’ ? Anyone explain this ??

Same old.... Same old.... Same old....its Corbyn.

It is happening more and more, bullying is the new way of controlling the Labour Party.

Joan Ryan has lost a confidence vote, 94 - 92, seems she smeared Corbyn’s character , she voiced her views in the anti semetism row and is a member of Labour friends of Israel.

Disrupting council meetings is nothing new, especially from the public gallery. If people feel strongly about something then this will happen. More often it’s about planning permission than anything else. Recently around here the Tory-led council has been giving planning permission for Green Field sites to be developed. This has angered many.

Sadly Fennel I am not surprised reading this account .

There is report after report of this sort of thing happening , not necessarily anti-semitism related but during council meetings etc. as told by Labour MP's and councillors.

I've tried to stay out of this, but really it's getting ridiculous:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-45431237
Just over the bridge from us.

trisher

Your point re bulldozers exhibits the lengths to which the boycotting of Israeli goods is just the tip of the iceberg in that case.

Or rather was