Labour Party and anti semitism

Luciana has had horrific death threats, the police are taking them seriously. What isn’t be reported is the details of the threats some MP’s are getting, not ‘I will kill you’ but details of how, details of rape including gang rape.

At last year’s Labour Party conference, Len McCluskey denied that Labour had a problem with anti-Semitism. At this year’s, Luciana Berger, a Jewish Labour MP, is being escorted by police protection officers.

Just saying.

So that’s why he isn’t to be seen, he is accending . I was so right in the lead up to the election , I said he was promising rainbows

Corbyn may well be seeing his own decline, in fact he may have peaked now with voters who see through him.Rejecting any Brexit deal could well be the final straw for Labour voters, many of who voted to Leave.

lemon Annie brought in Hitler Youth, I think a Muslim woman would be quite justified in calling that racist.
I think the concept of movement politics is interesting and I can see that there may be a lot of support for it. It would of course upset the PLP. Maybe that is why some of them dislike Corbyn. In his ascendency they see their own decline.

You have a touching faith in what anyone under 30 says
trisher
The Muslim faith has nothing to do with this thread, but hey, if it distracts from the subject......

Read it and listened to the debate Annie and as I said it wasn't particularly well received. Anna Soubry's speech in favour of the motion was much better and was applauded more. It was a very good speech, but Ash's was better.

Carry on trying to deviate from anti semetism in the Labour Party, I will not reply. Have you read Iam’s link ?

Youth trisher, youth

Liking the actions of an Islamic woman of Bengali descent, with a mother and grandmother who were both active in anti-racist politics, to the Hitler Youth Movement because of a belief in movement politics is not only offensive Annie it's racist.

What has the Muslim faith to do with a thread on anti semetism? Deviation ?

My opinion Trisher, surely you are not playing ‘ the offended Card ?

Oh Annie Ash is a Muslim with a family history of anti-racist actions. Had you posted something similar about a Jewish woman it would have been considered as disgusting as I find this.

The Hitler Youth Movement possibly had the same effect .

“Tomorrow belongs to me “ that song is frightening

Really interesting debate and the second speaker against is possibly the most interesting. Ash Sarkar introduces the idea that Corbyn is about movement politics and progressing away from Parliamentary politics which she regards as out of date. It's a young persons view that I certainly hadn't considered.

How is saying we shouldn’t critcise Israel anti semetism?

Just watched the news and a Rabbi sounding off about anti semitism....what really angered me were the posters in the small crowd.Apparently we shouldn't be criticising Israels actions against the Palestinians or saying its akin to the Nazi 's treatment of jews .THATS anti semitism.Sorry but in my book Israel is guilty as charged ,their treatment of the people of Palestine is a disgrace and they should have been brought to justice over it long ago .ALL governments are or should beopen to criticism .I am not anti semitic ,I am anti Israeli government policy .

Interesting to listen to the debate itself on Intelligence Squared, there is some laughter, but it is generally nervous and not really amused laughter. I think many of the audience were probably shocked by the pure and unadulterated character assassination. Chris Williamson speaking against the motion received far louder applause. Just listening to Anna Soubry for the motion.

The description of the wall mural , it shocked and upset me.

Thanks anniebach- I tried and failed (again)
to post a link.

Iam, I have just read it and feel so emotional, he speaks for me , I have posted much of what he writes about but he is so eloquent. Hope you don’t mind if I post a link ?

www.thejc.com/comment/comment/howard-jacobson-speech-intelligence-squared-1.469525

I apologise sincerely for being the world's worst at posting links. I've just read an article by the peerless Howard Jacobson about Jeremy Corbyn. Howard Jacobson grew up in Manchester's Jewish community.
I suppose the pro Corbyn posters, who genuinely believe Corbyn isn't allowing anti semitism to flourish in the LP will dismiss Jacobson, not least because the speech is printed in the Jewish Chronicle. I thought it was excellent.

lemon is it anti-semitic to accuse all Jews of holding the same opinions?
And is Day 6's comment anti-semitic?

sigh! Of course, trisher only the very few 'intelligentsia' of Gn can understand these things.Do give it a rest.

Thanks Fennel it does shock me the way accusations of anti-semitism are being bandied about with no understanding of what it really is.