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Should the electorate have the final say on Brexit?

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MarthaBeck Sun 02-Sep-18 10:29:39

It is hard to believe Number 10 saying giving the People a final say on Brexit is a betrayal, when it will be the electorate themselves making the final decision. Surely, our democracy wins by deciding on agreement No 10 wishes to impose that may be very different to what the leading leave campaigners promised and the electorate accepted ie more money for the NHS, for Care, for our Infrastructure, and greater trade opportunities etc, etc.
Today, A key Conservative party donor has also called for a People’s vote to be held on the final Brexit deal amid new warnings about the huge financial costs of leaving the EU without an agreement.
Sir Simon Robertson, a former banker and Rolls-Royce chairman. Has told the Observer he was “deeply depressed” by the direction of the Brexit debate and he believed there should be a chance for a vote on the final deal hammered out with Brussels.
His backing for a second public vote suggests that there is support for the move among senior Tory Remainers.

“I think it is complete balderdash to say the people have spoken, therefore you can’t go back. The people can speak again – why can’t we have another vote on it?” Robertson told the Observer. “We had a brilliant deal with Europe. We had an opt-out on ever-closer union, we weren’t in the single currency and we were not in Schengen [the EU’s passport-free travel area]. We had a perfect arrangement. We are now going to end up with one where, at the end of things, we won’t have a final say.
If a final democratic resolution to Brexit is not offered to the electorate I fear there is likely to be such severe anger and possible backlash that we have never seen in the UK in our lifetime, that in my view we must avoid by giving the Nation the final say rather than having it imposed by dogma.

varian Fri 18-Jan-19 17:44:08

Dominic Grieve, the former Attorney General, has tabled two bills for Wednesday which call for a European Union Referendum.

One bill seeks to launch preparations for a referendum while the other seeks to carry out the vote. “Bill to provide for a referendum about the United Kingdom’s future relationship with the European Union,” reads the wording of the second bill.

inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-second-eu-referendum-dominic-grieve-bills/

varian Thu 24-Jan-19 14:03:08

The likelihood of a second Brexit referendum being held to break the political deadlock over the issue has “risen sharply”, data has suggested.

Forecasting group the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) put the probability of another poll at 50 per cent, up from 30 per cent following similar analysis two weeks ago.

It predicted that Prime Minister Theresa May’s “plan B” for Britain’s departure from the EU will not be sufficient to secure parliamentary approval.

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-latest-likelihood-of-second-referendum-has-risen-sharply-data-shows-a4047241.html

varian Thu 24-Jan-19 16:23:10

A cross-party grouping of MPs has pulled a proposed amendment that would legislate for a second referendum on the Brexit deal on Thursday, blaming the Labour leadership for not backing the plans. One of the architects of the amendment Dr Sarah Wollaston, the Conservative MP for Totnes, said in a statement that the plans had been halted, conceding, “until we have the leader of the opposition’s backing, it would not pass”.

Surrounded by Labour and Conservative MPs, another member of the grouping, Luciana Berger, Labour MP for Liverpool Wavertree, urged party leader Jeremy Corbyn to “do the right thing and back a people’s vote”. “Labour should be clearly setting out a different course, not facilitating a job-destroying Brexit.” “Yet at a time when Labour could be championing a People’s Vote, the leadership avoids answering that call. This is not good enough.”

She said that Labour could lose support from pro-EU supporters, many of whom back a second referendum. She said: “I believe if Labour doesn’t back a People’s Vote we will haemorrhage support right across the country and we will suffer at those election boxes whenever the next general will come.” When she was asked if it could split the Labour Party she said: “We want to see a resolution.” “This is the most critical issue facing our country are we are all here to come together in the national interest because we think this is most pressing thing that we should be resolving at this time.”

Read more at: inews.co.uk/news/politics/second-brexit-referendum-peoples-vote-amendment-pulled-mps-group-jeremy-corbyn/

varian Thu 24-Jan-19 16:58:29

"The problem that the left has is the gap between the apparent position of Labour’s leadership and that of its rank and file. In the most authoritative poll yet done, research published this week by Queen Mary University shows that a whopping 72% of Labour members back a fresh Brexit referendum – substantially more than Jeremy Corbyn received in either leadership election."

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/03/labour-vote-jeremy-corbyn-left-grassroots