Call off the dogs Corbyn

Trisher, rubbish, you latest accusations about no free speech during the Blair government is not true, you must have had no interest in politics at that time. If you were do tell how many MP’s were de selected during that time

Well said grannypaulin And why should the leader of the party be allowed to interfere in a local party decision? The days of absolute control by TB and the unelected AC are over. An MP. who is answerable to the party members who provide his/her support is much more democratic.

I do know how local parties work. Strange why the local,party quickly withdrew their vote of no confidence , her speaking at the Jewish .labour conference which caused this suggests anti semetism does it not. She was only elected last year.

A vote of no confidence is a way of the local Party telling their MP that they consider that they no longer represent that Party's policies adequately. The local Party selected them, canvassed for them, raised and channelled funds, and helped them win their election.

The local Party needs its representative to be just that - representative of the Party. Otherwise the candidate is perfectly free to stand as an independent. Policies develop and change and sometimes the local Party will need a different representative. An automatic process of reselection from a group of applicants ensures they will get the representative they will want to work for.

In a General Election the country votes on which candidates and policies (hopefully mostly on the latter) they prefer. Sometimes the setting MP loses.The nature of politics at present is such that nobody who enters Parliament should expect gratitude or a job for life. It is more of a duty and conviction.

Rosie Duffield who won the seat of Canterbury from the Tories last year spoke at the recent Jewish Labour Conference, her local party planned to move a vote of no confidence, it was quickly withdraw. .

Corbyn has refused to personally motions of no confidence now popping up across the country !

So he demands loyalty from MP’s but doesn’t t return loyalty to MP’s. A man of honour !

A long time ago?!

I think the anti-semitism arguement is lost lemon . Labour accepted the definition a long time ago.

bmacca and any others, annie is not a lone voice, either on GN or the wider world that 'strongly dislike Corbyn' it must run to millions.

the thing is.... the present LP does not encourage diversity and tolerance! Far from it, which has led the Party to where it stands now, accused of antisemitism and having any moderate disagreeing voice silenced.

bmacca, you obviouly missed my post when i said there has never been a perfect government

Anniebach, I accept you strongly dislike Corbyn and you are as entitled to that view as are those of us who hold the view that he is a more honest representative of Labour values than we’ve had for a long time.
However, please don’t paint the Blair years as so innocent. From 2004 -
“Labour's high command is planning "show trials" for its most disloyal MPs which could lead to their deselection before the next election unless they pledge loyalty to Tony Blair.
The extraordinary attempt to stamp discipline on the mutinous Westminster party is being championed by Hilary Armstrong, the Chief Whip.
She wants at least six of the most persistent rebels to be dropped as candidates by the ruling National Executive Committee unless they agree to mend their ways.
A Labour minister said last night that Miss Armstrong was ready to order a list of habitual rebels to appear before the NEC in the summer as part of a crackdown on "serial disloyalty".

Aggression is very much in use now in the Corbyn/ Momentum Party niggle

Ok, knowledgeable then! Does that word suit you better?!!
Why is it, that people on the far left are so defensive and aggressive?! Not exactly a vote catcher!!

He was Party leader at the time if the Iraqi war Annie .

Tony Blair is not a party leader, he is a party member

Good point trisher but please forgive me if I don’t add a kiss!

Tony Blair is a liar and responsible for half a million deaths in Iraq - some of whom were children and babies. He is now an advisor to JP Morgan - one of the largest investment banks. I don't think he has our interests at heart at all!

Perhaps if I spell it out for you Day6 .....it does not matter if the present Labour leadership is tending more to the left that you think acceptable, so long as there is tolerated a range of opinions and diversity.

I see you take every statement at face value, even when it is a bit tongue in cheek. I’ll remember to be less obscure when posting in future.

I would mention humour bypasses but someone would doubtless take that the wrong way too!

niggly who is "initiated"? Are you saying there is some sort of organised campaign going on here? Actually my posts and I imagine many others are the result of thinking and caring.
As for the accusation of too much money for Union bosses their pay is below that of most company directors, only slightly higher than some head teachers and nothing like the salaries of top bankers.
Who has ever said that Labour were solely the party of the working class? Read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, remember Alf Garnett. There has always been a group of caring people from all levels of society who wanted to see a more equal society. Just as there have always been people who having acheived a comfortable lifestyle feel they have no obligation to help others.

Exactly niggly, relying On party members vote at a general election is madness,

If union leaders pay/salary is anything to go by then you're spot on about wealthy Day6!! Actually what you and annie el al are posting, like it or not is true, end of! At least that's how it appears to the less initiated of us and we are presumably the masses Labour is hoping to persuade at the ballot box! T.B knew perfectly well that perceived extremism does not sit well with the ordinary voter. This understanding was undoubtedly the secret of his success on consecutive polling days!

Previous .labour leaders didn’t have a hit list naming MP’s

Deselction and a reselction vote should face every MP. It certainly did when I joined the Labour Party. The constituency party had the right to choose their representative.

We don't have MPs "for life" because they are representatives not employees - however long-serving.

Tolerance ? In the Corbyn/Momentum Party ? Doesn’t exist

I don’t care if their politics is to the left of Marks and Engels. What I was is diversity and tolerance.

That's a frightening statement. Ye Gods! Anything as long as it's Labour?

OldMeg you seem to be floundering under the misapprehension that only the now Marxist and Momentum controlled Labour party is about diversity and tolerance. That's quite funny really, given the disgraceful racist, anti-semitism crisis that is at the heart of the Labour Party.

Momentum aren't for diversity or tolerance either, really, are they? Deselection faces long-serving moderate MPs who refuse to toe their hard left line.

I am amazed in this day and age that some people still cling to the belief that Labour is the party of the working class. It's not been that for a very long time.

It is supported by right-on middle class, wealthy liberals academics and revolutionaries. All quite violently verbally intolerant of anyone who does not share their outlook.