Call off the dogs Corbyn

Wiggle wiggle wiggle, working not have time to say more.

Perhaps later

Centre left parties have never had a problem with racism, centre left party members would never support a party that did. A party I choose to support has to have more than policies I agree with

trisher

"Wiggle wiggle wiggle Presumably if you are Centre left you have policies you believe in Annie. You could try posting them. This isn't about political parties but political beliefs."

How can posters like Anniebach be Centre Left if you believe Corbyn/Momentum are Centre Left ?

trisher

POGS

" So come on what are Centrist Left policies? "

Not my problem and it is you and others who are challenging those to define what Centre Left policies are.

My point is, if you read my post, if you and yours believe Corbyn /Momentum are Centre Left not Far Left then answer the ruddy question you keep asking of others.

Trisher, you are putting forward the Corbyn/Momentum Party policies. When a centre left party is formed and policies put forward I will give my opinions

So... Centrists have a task here: firstly to give us their solution to the many problems facing society today and secondly to say how they disagree with trishers far left policies - to which I would add the cancellation of Trident.

The voting public is not that stupid - they want to see solutions to problems.

Wiggle wiggle wiggle Presumably if you are Centre left you have policies you believe in Annie. You could try posting them. This isn't about political parties but political beliefs.

How can there be centre left policies , then is no centre left party, I am centre left but I cannot speak for all centre left members.

It isn’t all the far left policies that I disagree with, it is the way the far left try to achieve them

He was using the language you yourself have used POGS. It's called communication. Of course I don't think anyone ever answered the question did they?
I would call far left policies-mass nationalisation of services, companies and banks. Taking back into public ownership any resources (swimming pools, libraries etc) which have been handed over to charities or other organisations by local councils. Standard wage for everyone regardless of their job. High taxation to pay for all above. Free education from 3 at all levels including university. Massive house building programme to provide social housing for all with compulsory purchasing of properties in areas where public servants are unable to live because of cost.
Now if you can find any of those in present Laour Party policy I will admit they are Far Left.
So come on what are Centrist Left policies?

Oh I’ve heard much dafter than that!

Corbyn and Co are far left . Too claim Gordon Brown is a Tory is the daftest thing I have ever heard ?

So if Blair and New Labour are not centre left who is Grandad and others asking the question of:-

" We all know what Corbyn and the Labour party new left policies are. However, can someone who believes that centre-left thinking is better please explain what that thinking would entail. "

Please explain who?

You see POGS you are once again making assumptions. Blair would not be described as Centre left by many of us, in fact the Liberal party were actually to the left of Blair's Labour Party, who therefore should probably be described as centrist without the left. Which means that the present Labour Party is simply Left wing and not far left at all.

trisher

" MPs were firmly controlled, were bullied and abused, by an unelected party member. "

Now they are controlled by the Party within a party Momentum.

Strange how those facing de selection are on Corbyn’s hit list .

Grandad 1943

When you ask :-

" We all know what Corbyn and the Labour party new left policies are. However, can someone who believes that centre-left thinking is better please explain what that thinking would entail. "

If you believe the Blairite/Centre Left should explain their thinking are you agreeing that Labour under Corbyn has moved to the far left.

I think it is pretty damned obvious but there is so much denial I wonder why.

No Political leader before has had such dark forces as Momentum working for them, , training days or brain washing days ?

How could there be any deselection calls POGS? MPs were firmly controlled, were bullied and abused, by an unelected party member. The calls for deselection come from the constituency members are you saying they have no option other than to accept the sitting MP regardless of how much support there really is?

Alistair Campbell and Damian McBride ( Mc Poison ) , what a lovely pair.

Damian Mc Bride of course returned to the Labour fold and took a senior role in Corbyns Labour party as Shadow Defence Secretary Emily Thornberry's media adviser. Is he still there?

Even under the mecheavellian days of Campbell and Mc Bride there were never calls for deselection and bullying by activists and Labour Members as seen once again rear it's ugly head from the days of Militent Tendency. Now Frank Field and Harriet Harman are targeted not by the likes of Campbell but the wider Jeremy for Leader/Momentum Party/Labour Party.

Poor b-gg--s

Good grief trisher, I accept I was green in believing Corbyn was honest but I have never thought any government was all hunky-dory . Untill exchanging posts with Corbynites I never encountered people who thought a party leader was the second coming and even refuse to believe things he has said and which is recorded .

trisher, I am trying to believe anyone succeeded in silencing Frank Field and it is difficult. Considering Clare repeated on radio that British spies were intercepting UN communications I am surprised she was advised to zip it . She was a member of the privy council.

I think she made the right choice when she became an independent MP

Marxism, Communism etc......all end badly.Capitalism for all it's flaws, is the best political model there is.

It's a collection of essays by academics Annie that's why there's an editor. If you choose to believe everything under Blair was hunky-dory that's up to you. Fortunately most aren't so naive.

Blair rode rough shod over cabinet members and public opinion re the Iraq war to push his own (and George Bush’s) agenda. He was certainly guilty of using bullying tactics to get his own way.