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Call off the dogs Corbyn

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Anniebach Sat 08-Sept-18 08:37:42

At last a Labour MP has spoken out . Chuka Umunna

news.sky.com/story/chuka-umunna-tells-corbyn-to-call-off-the-dogs-and-end-purge-11492924

lemongrove Sun 16-Sept-18 22:24:53

There is no arguement to take on and win, and it’s laughable for you to think that there is.
We can either ignore his insults now and move on ( having duly said what we think) or we can resort to gutter language ourselves ( no thanks.)

lemongrove Sun 16-Sept-18 22:21:10

So funny trisher .....keep digging yourself into the hole.

trisher Sun 16-Sept-18 22:06:33

No lemon one of my pet obsessions is women having absolute equality and what really upsets me is women who play the sensitive card and refuse to engage because they are offended. Many things offend me (bad language doesn't, I worked with too many children who used it to try and shock) but if I am offended I don't retire quietly and disengage I take on the argument and win.
And it's nothing to do with the ideas or agreement on policies it's about asking women to step up and be strong.

Anniebach Sun 16-Sept-18 22:00:44

Trisher, you may consider a person who uses foul language your equal, I do not. Since Corbyn became leader some people’s politics have plunged into the gutter , mine had not.

lemongrove Sun 16-Sept-18 21:55:43

Are you aving a laugh trisher?
Grandad said ‘Therefore I agree with trishers comments,and have concluded that there are more turds in this thread than ever was to be seen at the sewage plant yesterday’
So, you engage debate and counter that if you like, most of us can’t be bothered!
You only take your stance because he was agreeing with your comments.So obvious.

trisher Sun 16-Sept-18 21:50:59

Then engage, debate and counter the argument lemon. It is 2018 not 1918. Women no longer have the vapours when coarse language is used. I am not defending anyone. I am putting an objective argument that women today are the equal of any man and can challenge them without taking the huff because they don't like the language they use.

Anniebach Sun 16-Sept-18 21:44:56

Rather amusing this thread was about bullying

lemongrove Sun 16-Sept-18 21:43:59

There is something unpleasant trisher in the only man on the political threads using coarse language solely in order to
Annoy because he can’t engage in debate without insulting women on the thread.
I know that you agree with his political viewpoint so that probably you are defending him in an oblique way.
Most of us ( I suspect) won’t be doing the same regardless of political viewpoints.

Anniebach Sun 16-Sept-18 21:41:15

Who do you think is playing the offended card Trisher ?

trisher Sun 16-Sept-18 21:35:17

Perhaps what I realy find upsetting is that as women we should be strong enough to withstand and to respond to agressive language without having to play the offended card. It ties too much into the once common view that women were unable to engage in robust political debate because of their more delicate sensibilities.

MawBroon Sun 16-Sept-18 21:24:04

Perhaps Trisher, but why engage with that sort of person in the first place?
Now I must shush like I said I was going to.

Anniebach Sun 16-Sept-18 21:23:30

Do you Trisher , I disagree , no one should not be addressed in that manner, you may find it acceptable and defend it , your choice .

I have never wanted to humiliate anyone , cruel , again your choice

trisher Sun 16-Sept-18 21:20:01

Me thinks the ladies do protest too much.
Why not ignore the language and focus on political debate? The best way to humiliate someone is to destroy their ideas.

Jalima1108 Sun 16-Sept-18 20:55:22

I would just like to add that, although I may not always agree with trisher, I am sure that she would never use language or references such as those used on this and other threads by Grandad.

Anniebach Sun 16-Sept-18 20:43:06

Well, we have finally seen the true person .

Iam64 Sun 16-Sept-18 20:34:57

Jalima and MawBroon, totally agree with your posts.

Jalima1108 Sun 16-Sept-18 20:30:10

Very strange language for an older man hmm

Maw we know at least three HGV drivers, one related, and I can assure you that they are all lovely, polite and, if I can use an old-fashioned word, gentlemanly. In fact they are kind, gentle men too. One retired and, sadly, has Alzheimer's, but still a kind and wonderful man, always polite.

I wonder if Grandad is all that he purports to be?
If he shows his female staff our posts 'for a laugh' I wonder what they think of his posts?
I would guess not a lot.

Something does not ring true, sorry.

Anniebach Sun 16-Sept-18 19:59:15

Maw, please don’t let bullies win. You have in you heart a decent, loving, lovable, caring, gentle man . Decent, loving, gentle compared to sewage talk ? You are a kind, intelligent lady x

MawBroon Sun 16-Sept-18 19:51:45

Therefore I agree with trishrers comments and have concluded that there are more turds in this thread than ever was to be seen at the sewage plant yesterday

Is there really any need for such coarse language?
I shall not be posting on this thread any more or indeed on any where the language is that of the gutter.
It says much about the sort of person who uses it - perhaps that is how all you HGV driver chaps talk when you are together , but I am reminded of Trump’s “locker room” language.
I don’t live in that sort of environment and particularly today as I reflect on the life of a gentle man and a gentleman, I do not need to sink to your level.

Anniebach Sun 16-Sept-18 18:55:50

Just looked her up niggly, only 38, joined the Libs when 17. Wonder if she would get womens votes , would men vote for her? she gave a good speech

nigglynellie Sun 16-Sept-18 18:41:01

I think you could be right annie, in fact I've thought this for sometime-interesting!

Anniebach Sun 16-Sept-18 17:49:05

I think I have just listened to a future leader of the LibDems,
Jo Swindon, deputy leader .

Anniebach Sun 16-Sept-18 17:24:17

lemon, I have asking for a while ‘ where’s Corbyn’ , MacDonald is on tv news and radio so often I am surprised he hasn’t turned up at the LibDem conference .

I think Corbyn is being kept in the cupboard and will be brought out for youth rallies etc.

MacDonald is far more articulate, poor Corbyn had to bring out his calculator in one tv interview and who can forget when on journalist asked him about a possible forthcoming election, he went into panic mode, said ‘stop harassing me ‘ and hid behind a glass door. At PMQ he reads his questions and replies from written notes.

I am sure he fears being asked questions about Brexit, his mind is said set solely on leaving the EU, the rest is up to MacDonald who may be the one to get his hands on the keys to No 10. If this was to happen (heaven help us) Corbyn will not be chancellor, even with his calculator.

lemongrove Sun 16-Sept-18 16:46:37

Labour voting down any Brexit deal just shows what they are prepared to do to win power at any cost.
Am disgusted with a lot of politicians at the moment, jockeying for position and power when they had promised to get on and secure the best deal for us.Labour will pay for this in lost votes by the many Labour voters if they push for a GE and turn down any deal at all, and serve them right.
Have you noticed that for ages Corbyn has stayed in dark corners, allowing others to speak instead.

lemongrove Sun 16-Sept-18 16:40:26

Grandad I do wonder sometimes what your wife would think about your comments on here, you often use coarse language, do you do that in real life?In the ‘Office’ ?
I don’t ( thankfully) know any men of your age who would do this, none at all, and we have a wide circle of friends.
Do you imagine that coming onto a forum of mainly women, and doing this is somehow clever/funny/showing machismo? Because it sure isn’t!