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The Last Days of Mrs May?

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trisher Wed 12-Sep-18 11:42:36

So 50 MPs met to discuss getting rid of her, should we be counting the days? Or will she simply stay because there's no other suitable candidate and no one wants a poisoned chalice?

paddyann Fri 11-Jan-19 16:49:42

"The last days of Mrs May" well if I was religious I'd pray for it and the last days of these viscious ,heartless,USELESS tories .I'm just sorry the alternative in Westminster isn't any better

Lazigirl Fri 11-Jan-19 16:59:44

Don't bother paddyann, if prayer worked they'd legislate against it smile

varian Fri 18-Jan-19 11:06:57

If they were reasonable people, the pro-Brexit faction would now be shocked into facing reality. But they are not. These are the same politicians who tricked voters out of Europe by promising them that leaving would be all gain and no pain. Britain would become proud, sovereign, powerful, more prosperous. It could slash immigration, enrich its health service, cut magnificent and profitable trade deals with the rest of the world, opt out of European Union laws and still trade with and travel freely in Europe.

It was always rubbish, marketed by people deliberately indifferent to facts. The European Union was never going to let us leave the club while retaining all the advantages of belonging, any more than a tennis club allows ex-members to use the facilities for free. It said so, patiently, repeatedly. The agonizing negotiations of the past 18 months proved that over and over.
Mrs. May finally managed some wriggling round the edges, reducing part of the huge and unavoidable economic penalties of Brexit by keeping Britain in the European Union Customs Union and parts of the single market. It is a valuable concession, and one the European Union has agreed to principally in order to not inflame sectarian tensions in Northern Ireland, which would otherwise have to rebuild a border with the Irish Republic. The price that must be paid for remaining in the market is that Britain agrees to faithfully track and follow its rules, while no longer having any voice in how they are made.

These restrictions have sent the hard-line Brexiteers into a cold fury, but they were inevitable. You can’t even join a tennis match if you insist on drawing your own courts and deciding your own scores. The Brexit fanatics blindly ignore that. They have learned nothing, acknowledged nothing.

Rather than accepting their shameful role in deceiving voters over what was possible, they are doubling down on denunciation. They accuse Mrs. May of betrayal, of trapping and binding the country, of breaking her word. It is sheer selfish manipulation, political destructiveness on a huge scale, because they cannot get what they want; indeed, they cannot agree among themselves on what they want. They want the prime minister removed, but while they may secure the votes to challenge her, they’re unlikely to get enough to unseat her.

www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/opinion/sunday/brexit-theresa-may-politics.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

varian Sat 19-Jan-19 18:16:00

Sir John Major calls for ‘act of statesmanship’ from Theresa May to ‘mediate’ Parliament and offer free vote to MPs on Brexit

inews.co.uk/news/brexit/john-major-calls-for-free-vote-for-mps-on-brexit-deadlock-theresa-may/

varian Sun 20-Jan-19 15:48:54

American broadcaster CNN reports -"Brexit 'plot' by lawmakers 'extremely concerning,' Downing Street says."

Downing Street has described as "deeply concerning" a reported plot by lawmakers to take control of Brexit negotiations from UK Prime Minister Theresa May.

"Any attempt to remove the government's power to meet the legal conditions of an orderly exit at this moment of historic significance is extremely concerning," a spokesperson for the Prime Minister said.

However on Sunday Benn, who chairs the Commons Brexit committee, denied reports that MPs were "plotters," telling BBC One's The Andrew Marr Show that politicians were merely "doing their job."

"MPs doing their job are not plotters, they are trying to sort out the mess the Prime Minister has created," Benn said.

edition.cnn.com/2019/01/20/uk/brexit-lawmakers-plot-downing-street-gbr-intl/index.html

varian Tue 22-Jan-19 11:33:16

Isabel Hardman, writing in The Spectator points out that-

"Jeremy Corbyn may be reasonably easy for May to attack at the moment, but the MPs who want to be more involved are far trickier. As we have seen in the responses to her statement from backbenchers, she may have opened the door of Downing Street, but MPs aren’t really sure if she’s actually listening to them when they walk through.

Brexit Select Committee chair Hilary Benn told her that her door may have been open but her mind remains closed. It’s all very well pointing out that you are holding talks, but MPs will swiftly turn away from them if they turn out to be merely a talking shop, rather than the listening exercise that they want."