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Woman - a word that needs to be redefined?

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FarNorth Wed 26-Sep-18 16:15:27

Woman = adult human female? Apparently not.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45650462

notanan2 Wed 03-Oct-18 14:56:04

Its also worth bearing in mind that there are transwomen who are AGAINST the trans rights movement, and want rights for themselves that protect them from violence and discrimination but do NOT agree with removing or invading rights for women.

There are also older men who have lived as transvestites or transsexuals for decades, who blazed the trail for the younger generation to have freedom of expression, who are now being attacked by the trans movement for describing THEMSELVES as transvestites or transsexuals and not as "real women"

FarNorth Wed 03-Oct-18 15:02:45

I came across this on Mumsnet.
It's a recording of a phone call where the Ontario Human Rights Legal Support Centre refuses to help a woman who has been living in a Women's Hostel but is now afraid to stay there because she has had to share a room with a male-bodied trans person.
The Centre won't help the woman because her wish not to share a room with a male-bodied person could be seen as discrimination and that person may want to take legal action against the woman, in future.
If that did happen, the Centre would be able to help the male-bodied person.

youtu.be/Ck81ZX_5jFk

Here is an extract from an article about the same event.
A woman has filed a human rights complaint against a Toronto shelter for female recovering addicts, claiming staff forced her to share a small double room with a pre-operative male-to-female transgender person.

nationalpost.com/news/canada/kristi-hanna-human-rights-complaint-transgender-woman-toronto-shelter

FarNorth Thu 04-Oct-18 11:36:24

Here's an extract from an excellent article from James Kirkup, summarising the situation -

Your 13-year-old daughter tells a teacher that’s she’s uncomfortable with her body. She prefers trousers to skirts, football to ballet. She says she thinks she’s a he and wants to be treated as a boy at school. Would the teacher tell you your daughter wants to change gender?

Your 11-year-old granddaughter comes home from school upset. Changing after gym, another girl stood watching her undress and playing with her penis. (The girl in question is transgender, so yes, she has a penis.) When your family complains to the school, what happens?

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/trans-rights-have-gone-wrong/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

FarNorth Mon 08-Oct-18 18:55:22

The Youth Hostels Association has quietly redefined the terms 'female'and 'male'.
People can book into a dorm based on their gender identity of choice.

YHA accommodation for women is typically advertised as “a female bed in shared single-gender rooms”. The YHA said that the policy had been “in use since 2016 without any concerns or complaints”. One member in her 60s, said that when she complained she was told that there had been no “significant incidents”. She said: “What do they consider significant? The YHA has always been a supportive place and a choice for single women travellers. That safe space is no longer there.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/youth-hostels-association-allow-trans-guests-to-use-female-dormitories-7qsltrjjd?shareToken=1d98137b6e45ab2e9db0dfa67090f8d1