Nominee Brett Kavanaugh

He did not refute the allegation; he denied it. I believe her not him, btw.

I tend to agree but only in principle. The traditional process isn't supposed to let the President have the last word....congress must vote in order to confirm.

The problem is that Republicans have been controlling the process because they enjoy a (slim) majority in Congress.

After the Ford accusations, they no longer have enough votes to confirm K and time is running out. Three or four Republicans became undecided; and at least one of them (Senator Flake) demanded the FBI investigation in no uncertain terms. In a stunning development, DT himself has ordered the FBI to investigate K, but he's only given them a week.

My personal take is that behind the scenes, other Republicans had second thoughts too and wanted to know more, hence the push for an investigation. There are still some six weeks before the Nov. elections and before Democrats are likely to take the majority of seats in Congress.

So even though K was DT's pick and a sure thing, his confirmation may not happen after all. I for one will remain cautiously optimistic.

But like other Gransnetters have said, why on earth would any woman want to put herself through this, she has so much to lose. And am I the only one to think that had Judge Kavanaugh been a woman, that tirade of his would have been described as ‘hysterical’, not bold and forthright?

Mamar2
Didn't want justice 36 years ago, nor in any of the intervening years?

Sparklefizz
That's the most ludicrous comment. When YOU, your kids or anyone else you know, goes swimming, do you or they put clothes on on top of a wet swimsuit? Behave. Normal people change out of and into their streetwear before and after swimming. Did she have a wet swim towel in her bag? Is no-one asking these questions.

I am coming off this thread before GabriellaG implodes over "swimsuitgate".

When I was a child, I often wore my clothes over a damp swimsuit! We all did. We lived just minutes from the sea so it was easier to do that than wriggle about in the pebbly beach trying to get dressed with damp skin. No one caught pneumonia.

I do not know which of them is telling the truth or not.

However I am permanently making the point that the ' Kangaroo Court' is a most divisive method of deciding.

The ' Kangaroo Court' decided to give backing to the ' Westminster Peadophile Ring' claim that should cause embarrassment to those who believed the now known 'lies' generated . Christopher Jeffries was hounded by the ' Kangaroo Court' and again there should be embarrassment on the part of those who made the poor mans life hell when there was absolutely no proof of guilt but he looked 'wrong'.

I know one thing and that is how easy it is to make assumptions on nothing more than flimsy evidence, in fact on no evidence in some cases and it is a terrifying thought how easy a reputation can be sullied without due process having been taken. Lives are ruined, families destroyed on the back of the ' Guilty until proven Innocent ' scenario which now holds more sway than ' Innocent until proven Guilty ' it would appear .

I am neither doubting nor believing either of them and will make a decision as to the truth only if the accusation and the defence can be proven but that is where the case falls down , thus far.

I dislike the politics of not only this episode but the politics behind ' Guilty until proven Innocent ' in general . I think it is worth remembering this could happen to any one of us and it is not necessarily related to politics as many have sadly found out to their cost.

It isn’t just one person though is it? So far another 2 or 3 are telling similar stories.

It’s only when others step forward, as I the Cosby case as an example, that the weight of evidence starts to build up.

Oh my! Kavanaugh performance was beyond nauseating particularly his recounting of his ten year old daughter's prayer for 'the woman'. His hysterical,self-pitying performance was an Oscar winner were it not so chilling.

I so agree Babs.

I believe the Prof said that she put on her swimsuit in case they all went swimming, which they did not. It maybe saved her from rape.

Why I don't trust Kavanaugh - he told lies when he said that he was 18 when he was drinking at the said party - the records show that he was 17 and in that state the legal age for drinking was 21; some of the slang he used (like "boofing") is apparently terms for some very unpleasant sexual behaviour towards women; he was attending a Jesuit private school at the time of the alleged incident (so much for religious education); a major Jesuit Catholic magazine ("America") has just withdrawn its support for his nomination (they previously strongly supported it - what do they know that we don't yet?); he has refused to take a polygraph (lie detector) test - Dr Ford has already done so. He comes across to me as a man born into money and a sense of entitlement to do whatever he wants - and now, for the first time, he's been challenged (hence the shouting and the tears and the anger when he was being questioned). Chilling indeed.

Looking forward to the analysis by Katy Kaye and Christian Fraser on BBC News tonight at 7.00pm. They are so good.

all I have seen of this man is that he doesn't have the right temperament for such a top job, which is for life.
I think it will be that, rather than the accusation that he behaved badly at a party when he was 17 that will go against him, or should I say should go against him!

There is something fundamentally wrong with the American constitution which allows a small number of Supreme Court judges to have such enormous power for the rest of their lives.

Kavanaugh isn't fit for office. His comments, his emotional demeanour when reading the statement he wrote for the initial inquiry should rule him out.
As others have already said, if a woman had given her statement in such an over emotional, dramatic manner, dragging her ten year old daughter into the mix - she'd have labelled hysterical and unfit to hold such high office as a result of temperament, never mind the accusations being made.
Thank goodness our Judges aren't appointed because of any political offilliation. The US system stinks.
I'm not going to attempt to encourage those posters who just don't understand why girls/boys, women/men subjected to sexually indecent behaviour don't immediately call the Police. It would be a complete waste of time and effort.

Kavanaugh says Boof means passing wind. Nope, it doesn't. It's a way of describing sexual activity .

Fox News at its best (spoof not boof)

www.facebook.com/snl/videos/242136243315376/

Fabulous, what a great laugh. ?

Who says the American's don't do irony! There are some great pieces on facebook, you tube etc, Mat Damon has gone up in my estimation.

Have any of you heard the disgraceful words used by DT at a rally yesterday against Prof Christine’s testimony ? His comments change with the wind.

Yes NanKate, I saw it on facebook. He's a danger to all of us isn't he. In so many different ways.

Absolutely Iam64. Sublty and diplomacy clearly don’t feature on his CV.

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PLEASE Don't open the post next to mine it looks dodgy.

Well it looks as if BK will get in. ? I hope I am wrong.