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The Nasty Labour Party - what they really stand for.

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Day6 Fri 28-Sept-18 21:36:21

Rod Liddle took Labour to the cleaners on Question Time. I fully agree with his assessment.

“I really wish that the people who were taken in by [Labour] and agreed with that, would look to the left beyond the podium and see the rabble with their Palestinian flags and their lanyards sponsored by Hamas, would look to the raft of hypocrites on the Labour front bench. Thornberry, Abbott, Chakrabarti – all of whom don’t want you to send your kids to private schools or selective schools but do so for their kids, and for Corbyn and McDonnell, who have given support and succour to every possible hostile, violent, anti-democratic terrorist regime or organisation they can. IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela.

If you want people like that running your country, vote for Corbyn.”

MaizieD Sat 29-Sept-18 11:34:59

What definition would that be, Annie?

There are many, many definitions, you know.

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 11:38:41

Yes , seems there are many definitions , I read one definition
- the type of government in the United States

MawBroon Sat 29-Sept-18 11:39:55

Have you not heard of Rod Liddle Grandad?
g.co/kgs/uFUeCT

GillT57 Sat 29-Sept-18 12:03:03

I thought QT was awful this week. Rod Liddle is a vulgar loud mouth. The Labour supporter, whatever his name is, was a crashing bore churning out 1970s rhetoric.

MaizieD Sat 29-Sept-18 12:05:31

So which definition of 'democracy' are some people on here not accepting, Annie?

It's not fair to make a statement like that and then not tell us exactly what definition you're using.

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 12:12:34

I never reply to demands Maizie

jura2 Sat 29-Sept-18 12:33:44

Rod Liddles performance on QT was quite simpy nasty and appaling- and those who think otherwise say a lot about themselves, for sure.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Sept-18 12:36:07

"The Nasty Labour Party" what they really stand for!

I think they are the nasty party judging by the posts on this thread.

I thought the following might be of interest.

Education budget 2015 £84bn
Education budget 2018 £102bn

So the headmasters were making a protest about cuts in education?

JC is on record/filmed asking for article 50 to be invoked now, immediately the day after the referendum.

Momentum website asking for people to come out in protest outside the Tory conference @ 12pm today, unfortunately the conference does not start till tomorrow!!!

jura2 Sat 29-Sept-18 12:38:47

No Annie- the Palestinian flag was in support of those who suffer terribly at the moment at the hands of Zionists.

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 12:42:24

I do realise why the flags were waved Jura, I do have a degree of intellegence , it was still goading the Jewish community .

jura2 Sat 29-Sept-18 12:43:48

As for the meaning of 'Democracy', Lord Livslane (who looks like Dickie Attenborough- gave a very good and funny description in the Lords the other day. About him giving his old aunts a treat, and them choosing to go to the cinema... did you see it. About right, I say ...

Democracy based on lies and proven fraud, with a tiny majority - DEMANDS that people are given a chance to vote on the final deal offered, with eyes opened to the consequences. Punkt- Schluss- end of story.

Again, and again - what are you scared of if you are so sure. Would you prefer a GE being forced upon the country? Would you prefer BoJo taking the reins...

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 12:44:53

GrannyGravy, yes Corbyn did call for Article 50 to be invoked the morning following the referendum results.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Sept-18 12:46:13

jura2 I would prefer a trained chimp over JC????

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Sept-18 12:47:49

Anniebach, I wonder who will be around to pull the splinters out of his derrière, due to his sitting on the fence on practically everything.

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 12:51:19

GrannyGravy, this is a man who attended a wreath laying to terrorists but ‘ I don’t know if I was involved ‘ .

He is glued to that fence , no gumption

GrannyGravy13 Sat 29-Sept-18 12:58:33

Having an AC who is a serving soldier, I cannot condone any elected politician standing side by side with a terrorist/terrorist organisation.

Waiting for the weekly phone call, email when AC is in a war zone is something I would not wish on any parent.

MawBroon Sat 29-Sept-18 13:02:37

By Lord Livslane did you mean Lord Lisvane Jura2?

g.co/kgs/vURgNo

jura2 Sat 29-Sept-18 13:02:38

Well we have had the definition of 'democracy' discussed. Perhaps we should look at the one for 'terrorist' and especially when it is legitimate to take up arms when you have no other means to fight for your very basic rights.

Mandela is a good example. How could blacks and coloureds in SA fight against Apartheid - apart from fighting?

jura2 Sat 29-Sept-18 13:03:08

Yes Maw, sorry for typo, and thanks for link.

jura2 Sat 29-Sept-18 13:03:51

A link to his speech in the Lords would be even better. Anyone?

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 13:07:33

GrannyGravy, did you know he said of the armed forces in the .falklands war, ‘ The unemployed are being sent to die ?

Grandad1943 Sat 29-Sept-18 13:09:12

Some claiming to be Labour party members or supporters (but in reality are closet Tories) have no gumption to answer straight questions.

Those questions can be, do you accept the democratic vote of a constituency Labour Party?

Do you support the Labour Party key policy of condemning the Gig Economy?

Would be interesting to witness an answer, but I expect a certain person will sit on the fence. grin

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 13:11:14

Where is democracy when an MP can be deselected for not being loyal to a leader was was not loyal to his leader? Freedom of speech !

Does democracy mean hypocrisy? Seems so.

Grandad1943 Sat 29-Sept-18 13:47:04

It was a democratic vote by a constituency Labour Party anniebach.

THAT IS DEMOCRACY.

The thinking of this Labour MP is obviously not in line with the thinking of his constituency; therefore they have through democracy decided to deselect him.

What is so wrong with the above? Compleat loss of confidence, better for both parties that they should go their separate ways I would believe.

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 13:49:37

I am not comfortable with slavish loyalty , I find it pathetic