Northern Ireland and Brexit

Is NfKDumpling on this thread?

NFK, I thought the DUP where the largest party in the Stormont parliament and therefore were the majority, although I am aware that legislative body has not met for a considerable period of time.

We here on the mainland have always been told that the people of violence did not represent the true thoughts of the Northern Ireland population even at the height of the war. Therefore it only took a core minority to bring about havoc in that province and here on the mainland. As Jerry Adams has stated "the gunman have not gone away, they have only gone quiet.

Again NFK, if the sentiment in the province is so changed as you describe, why are all the walls and barbed wire still required to divide the communities.

nigglynellie, the benches opposite are not the government and what they say and do makes little difference to us at this point in time.

Theresa May and the two faced back stabbing crowd that surround her are the government and the shambles they have made over the Brexit negotiations will affect every one of us drastically unless things change very rapidly.

What was it, oh, strong and stable Theresa May stated on the steps of Downing Street as she took up her premiership. You could not make it up, could you.

NFK believe me, you couldn't be more wrong! The majority of the population of Ireland, North and South really don't want violence and mayhem. We have had enough. Things had been settling down slowly but surely. Until Brexit has opened Pandora's Box! By the way, for those of you in Britain unsure of where the DUP fit in, know that they do not represent the majority of the people here at all!

^ It is an insoluble problem.^
So why do some keep asking Gransnetters to solve it?

jiggly ??

For what it's worth,and some of you will sneer, I think for the past two years, TM has remained strong and stable unlike her wretched cabinet colleagues, and certainly more than the benches opposite who, let's face it, are just pathetic opportunists!

Brexit negotiations have hit a "real problem" over the issue of the Irish border, government sources have warned.

Hopes of a breakthrough were raised when the Brexit secretary made an unscheduled trip to Brussels on Sunday.

But talks faltered over the need for a back-up plan - known as the backstop - to avoid a hard border.

Theresa May, who is briefing MPs, has insisted any backstop arrangement must apply to the UK as a whole so not to create a border in the Irish Sea.

Ahead of a key summit of European leaders on Wednesday, the EU is believed to be seeking further reassurances that its internal market will be protected and that additional customs and regulatory checks can be carried out without the return of physical infrastructure on the border.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45859282

Surprise, surprise!

Then she shoud come out and say so and stop pretending it will all be fine and everything will work out.

Theresa May is incapable of solving the Northern Irish problem.

That is not her fault. It is an insoluble problem.

But let us not forget that she will remain as she promised "Strong and Stable". (While the rest of the country falls to bits all around her)

The British prime minister is hemmed in on all sides as the ongoing deadlock over the Irish border threatens to derail Brexit talks.…

www.euronews.com/2018/10/15/ch...

It was clear from the start

a) a border is impossible

b) not having a border is impossible

simple- really.

The leave negotiations breakdown once again even after a special flight and unscheduled talks today (14/10/18) initiated by the UK's Brexit secretary. Yet again, one of the major problems was the Irish border issue that still seems to be unsolvable within a negotiated settlement.

The above situation should be compared to the statement on the day of the article fifty document signing when the then Brexit secretary stated that "these will be the easiest negotiations ever concluded."

What a joke by this bunch of leave clowns that clearly never thought through the agenda that they lied about and sold to the British people.

Within those lies it is now obvious that each of those leave leaders had their own agenda that had nothing to do with benefits to the British people, but more to do with benefits to themselves.

Control, wealth and power for the few is clearly what those at the front the leave campaign sought and now it is there for all to see.

Very few of our elected politicians seem to care a fig about the future of our country. They only seem to be interested in advancing, or at least hanging on to their positions, and personally cashing in while millions of Britons suffer the consequences of their irresponsibility.

A "majority" of the cabinet agreed the Chequers plan, then some betrayed the collective decision, what kind of democracy is that!.
Apparently TM is relying on arithmetic to outvote her own rebels, she needs the DUP plus 14 Labour MPs to push Chequers through. Nothing like optimism is there.

And she is threatening to resign too. Well she has changed here tune- another one, like Johnson, who would sell her grandmother to go up a few steps. Listen to her during the campaign:

youtu.be/pkrdEmtii78

Mundell and Davidson say they'll resign if SNP try to convince the electorate that a no deal is the wrong way forward.Let them resign !! They dont have the interest of their own people at heart ,only the Tory party,so let them go.

So, David Davis wishes to see a cabinet rebellion against Theresa Mays Chequers plan for Brexit. He criticises the handling of the negotiations over the last two years while seemingly forgetting he was the person overseeing those negotiations throughout that time.

His incompetence in those negotiations has meant that Theresa Mays Brexit plan is the only one on the table for the European Union to consider. The cabinet all agreed that plan at the meeting held at Chequers, and then some stabbed the Prime Minister in the back immediately they found that agreement was not popular with some of their cronies.

So, to plunge the country even deeper into the Brexit mire is entirely acceptable to Davis and others in their sole selfish quest to have Theresa May's job and in that to hell with the rest of the population.

You could not make it up could you, Disgusting

I think the phrase is “Get a room”.

'jura2, oh sorry, my deepest and sincerest apologies if I have.'

no need of course grandad - it was a 'joke' as clearly you did not interrupt them not providing any answers.

Apologies, post in wrong thread above, please ignore for this thread.

Here is a link on Bloomgergs move to Europe:-

www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/05/bloomberg-moves-eu-trading-units-to-amsterdam-ahead-of-brexit/

Yes Paddyann, they could all assemble in one place and swap their goods about just like a giant car boot sale except it would be held every day.

Great idea.