Aldi expansion

Maw it makes little difference which thread to be fair. Whatever ails you.... blame Brexit. Bus late this morning? That will be Brexit. No sliced bread in the bakers? That's Brexit too.

Like petra, I too am struggling to understand why German car dealerships will have to pay tariffs but Aldi/Lidl will not. Apparently.

Jalima
My ( could become an addiction) is the packs of Gratin dishes. I have more than I need but I still pick them up and stroke longingly ( only joking) but like an addict I say ' No!! get thee away'

Apparently Prittsticks are 'safe for young children ' - so are they safe for the planet?
Or should I phone as a matter of urgency and ask her to use flour and water paste instead?
What to do with the Prittstick though?
She was going to make some posters about Saving The Planet

petra - gratin dishes?
They sound terribly Nigella!
What do you make in a gratin dish?

I have a lot of ramekins, I think they must breed in my cupboard.

Jalima
Well obviously gratin recipes darling

What do you make in a gratin dish?

Cauliflower cheese gratin? Anything you like that requires a shallowish dish. Or, if you're like me, nuts and crisps etc!

Thank you petra
I am an ignorant chef but an old-fashioned cook.
Oh - you mean cauliflower cheese Chewbacca.
Do you both shop in Waitrose

I must have a few gratin dishes in my cupboard, must make use of them.
I did roast tomatoes in one of them this evening.

Poggs. they will be able to source food direct from EU growers, that the UK won't be able to do without tariffs.

I think I must be missing something here.

If Aldi and Lidl want to import food from the EU into the UK will they be exempt from tariffs that UK-based supermarkets may have to pay?
What about the food that is at present sourced in the EU by UK-based supermarkets? Will that be subject to different tariffs that Lidl and Aldi will not, for some reason, have to pay when they import similar food?

Will there be tariffs on food transported between the UK and EU anyway? Will UK food being exported to the EU be subject to tariffs too?
Presumably, as it is a two-way thing and in the interests of both the UK and the EU, a deal will be sought.

Jalima
Well there you go. Who knew that Aldi could open up a whole new culinary world to you.
You too will now be 'stroking' the gratin dishes in the centre aisle

I think I'll head for the
especially after reading this thread

That's it exactly jalima and particularly so as more comes into the uk from the eu.

I think it's been most informative, particularly Re tariffs

Of course, nobody knows for sure. But they are a Business, and wouldn't do that unless they thought they will be at an advantage.

Re Tariffs, they will be able to import from the 26 EU countries, and 41 associated countries - without tariffs- and then import into the UK.

jura

"Poggs. they will be able to source food direct from EU growers, that the UK won't be able to do without tariffs. Food prices are likely to go up in the UK because of consequences of Brexit - GERMAN businesses won't be affected- they will still have 26 countries to get food from."
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I understand that but may I raise another thought.

So Aldi will buy a lettuce say for 20p in Spain , export it to the UK and pay a tariff if no deal is done.

Another supermarket may decide to buy a lettuce from say Egypt at 18 p , ship it to the UK without a tariff if a deal has been done for free trade.

It could also be pointed out the possible reduction / the loss of trade with the UK for the Spanish lettuce grower ' Might' push up the price for somebody living in the 27 EU countries and countries such as Switzerland .

There are so many ' what if's' at the moment the truth of the matter can only be hypothetical.

I admit to totally losing the will to even try to follow the arguments for Remain/ Leave now. I was pretty confused at the time of the referendum but there have been so many more counter arguments to the counter arguments , spin and twists, lies and smoke and mirrors.

My instinct is that it is not a 'good thing' to leave in that I feel a united Europe is better and safer one than a divided one. Over bureaucracy in any large organisation is a problem but I believed that could be tackled internally and UK could have had a strong voice in that reform. Especially after the referendum indicated a split in the country.

No idea why one area of German imports would be subject to increased tariffs and another not! If in fact that is true!

Agreed Pogs and PECS- no-one knows.

But Aldi must have a good hunch - and can afford to take the risk, I suppose. They are certainly not doing it out of the goodness of their little hearts to help their mates int he UK.

If the over bureaucracy could have been tackled by now then it would have been.We had no hope of influencing anything.
Even knowing we would be having a referendum if Cameron didn’t get concessions didn’t make any difference to them, and he must have been fuming at the time.
The behemoth that is the EU goes rolling on, so glad we won’t be part of it.

Aldi and Lidl are businesses that are doing well here, they won’t be packing up and leaving the UK just because we are leaving the EU.

PECS
As stated here ^ they will still be part of eu, without tariffs or restrictions^
We must assume this applies to all eu countries that export to the uk ( or does Germany have its own rules)
Let's assume that this 'no tariff' rule applies to all. In that case, no tariffs on French wine, champagne, cheese.
Ditto Italian pasta, wine, cheese
........ Belgium beer
........ Spanish salad produce
......... Dutch flowers.
Where's the problem if the 'no tariff' statement is true?

lemongrove given that you feel UK is too weak to make changes as a member why do you think we will be able to negotiate a positive exit deal?

jura

" But Aldi must have a good hunch - and can afford to take the risk, I suppose. They are certainly not doing it out of the goodness of their little hearts to help their mates int he UK."

Oh dear there you go again. Sigh.

Perhaps Lidl and Aldi have made their decision to expand in the UK on the premise the UK is going to provide sufficient profit for their companies with or without a deal and I am sure they are astute in their business acumen to have given consideration to both outcomes.

We may find out they cancel all their plans to expand in the future but for now your blind faith the UK is going to hell in a hand cart is worth challenging at times.

They had no need to listen to us as a member, as they had our money anyway.They need to listen now if they want a deal.....or no money!

Exactly POGS No business exists as a charity cause, so they must know they are onto a good thing here.

But aren't we part of 'they'?? We are still part of the EU so don't be too quick to put us in the past tense!

PECS

What do you mean?