British expats in France and other EU countries

Fennel surely you just swap back to an English driving licence while you can?

All my relatives, living abroad, have dual nationality. If you want to live in another country learn about it's history and culture and learn the language.
Where my DD lives in Belgium the police call at the house and check paperwork to ensure she is who she says she is and all residents names must be displayed at the front door. She has decided to leave her car in the UK, parking is horrendous where she lives.

Yes that's what we'll have to do Mamie.
We'll have to have tests because of our age, which as you know isn't necessary in France.

Absolutely agree with speaking the language and understanding culture and history harrigran but that is a long way from taking nationality. Up to now we have had freedom of movement, but now that is being taken away we have to make sensible decisions about how to proceed. If I was young, working and had children here then I would go for nationality, but for us I think permanent residence is enough. My son in Spain will probably take Spanish nationality, which means that he will have to give up his British nationality. He has a Spanish wife, two children, is completely fluent and has lived there for over twenty years. I don't think he would say that he feels Spanish though.

All my relatives, living abroad, have dual nationality
Not all countries allow this harrigran, including Spain and the other EU countries in my list above.

DD has several friends who reside permanently in Spain, married Spaniards (in one case a Chilean), and have Spanish children. I don't know what they will do regarding nationality.

Mamie, can your son not keep his British nationality and become dual nationality? I’m not sure why he has to give up his British nationality.

Oops, just saw Jalima’s post. How strange, why don’t Spain allow dual nationality?

The Netherlands does allow dual nationality Jalima if you have lived and worked there for 15 years or are married to a Dutch person and have been so for, I think, 5 years. You have to search hard to get this info.

A large number of EU citizens are taking out UK nationality too, they don't trust the government to allow them to stay. This applies to a German friend who has lived here for 25 years. She thought the process was very difficult.

As I said in my much earlier post, Spain only allows dual nationality for some Spanish speaking South American countries and Portugal. Perhaps they will have to think about this. It would be very sad for my son to have to give up his British nationality.

Let's hope they do think about it Nandalot or your son's sake and for the sake of many others.

Thanks, Nonnie, I stand corrected

I think they may have a re-think, Nandalot - indeed I hope so.

Love it when people say that others should "just" get citizenship like it is easy!

For EU citizens here they have first had to apply for PR. Not easily got. AND if they are a family the children wont be full citizens, they have to reapply at 18

And a home office that can change the rules mid application and apply them retrospectively so that you have to start again to qualify despite already paying all that money

A quick mention of those of us with holiday homes. It has been suggested that we will need a visa for each trip.

We have had our holiday home in Normandy for nearly 30 years and come across every five or six weeks, so getting a visa will be really fiddly. Fortunately, I am entitled to Irish citizenship and I am applying for it. Hopefully DH, who is English to the core, can travel on my apron strings.

We had a holiday home in Florida for 10 years and had to apply for an ESTA every 2 years. No big deal, if that's what's required you just have to get on with it.

Brexit: France's Macron makes English faux pas over visas BBC News:

French President Emmanuel Macron made a faux pas by saying in error that UK visitors would need French visas if there is a no-deal Brexit, aides say.
He had meant to say that British people would not need visas in such circumstances.
The confusion came as Mr Macron was speaking to the media in English at the end of an EU summit in Brussels.
Instead of "we will not stop visas" he meant to say "*we will not start visas*", the Elysée Palace explained.

Faux pas or hastily backtracking?

I heard it described on the radio today as 'Macron embracing Trumpism'.

Dunno Jalima but the excuse given is "^His team now say it was a case of a "second language^" slip-up, and that President Macron meant to say "we will not start visas for British people

Hastily back tracking IMO Jamilla or perhaps he's taken to heart Junker's speech following the referendum result that English is no longer a relevant language.

It's taken a couple of days for the second language "slip-up" to be noticed!

I must admit I was surprised.

Gosh you're sooooo cynical Jalima!

Moi?
Mais non