So, our Honourable friends the Brexiteers ...

Mogg can do what he likes, but in my opinion, any challenge from his lot to TM at this time will fail.

So are we in favour of Jacob Rees Mogg's letter or not?

Easy to say how good the EU is when living outside it’s juristriction. We strayed into Switzerland for approx 2 miles and cost a packet!!!

I would also like to know.

Do you advocate membership of the EU so vociferously in your native Switzerland or just for the UK

That's a damned good question POGS, I'd love to hear the answer to that.

jura, what is the answer please?

Good post, Pogs.
Come on jura - those are fair questions. How do you answer/explain?

jura

"there is only one much much better deal ...

we might still get it."
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I take it you mean the UK ' Remaining ' in the EU?

Why do you think Switzerland has never joined the European Union?

I repeat part of my list to you yesterday:-

" Well you know as much as anybody jura how difficult it can be to fight against the European Unions desire for a Federal State / Ever Closer Union.

As a Swiss national who is used to referendum after referendum the Swiss Government couldn't even follow the wish of the people in a referendum when the people voted to limit immigration could it? The EU wouldn't let it happen.

That brings us back to the ' no cherry picking ' abiding by the 4 Pillars / Freedoms even for countries such as Switzerland who are ' not even members of the European Union '! "

Do you advocate membership of the EU so vociferously in your native Switzerland or just for the UK?

Indian Summer - lovely, sunny and warm- and not a snowflake in sight ;) and I have the second rotten cold in 6 weeks- so did not last long in the garden. Thank you.

On such a lovely day I thought you would be out skiing, Jura.

there is only one much much better deal ...

we might still get it.

Could someone explain to me how this deal solve the Irish Border, long term?

Yes, Jane and Maw if extreme Leavers and extreme Remainers are against it.....it must be an ok deal.

The tweaking is needed in just a couple of things ( I actually support this deal) and think if the backstop was worded so that we could get out...and a date was set, Parliament may look more kindly on it.As it is, they may well not do, so changes need to be made to it.
Not like you to be speechless jura and apart from not leaving ( your preferred option!) what would you change about the deal?

'tweak a few things' wow lemon - I am speechless (or rather, it is better if I don't say it)

Nothing will happen, (today at least it seems) TMay will carry on.
Wonder if Gove will accept the post of Brexit Sec?
It may well be a good deal, but Parliament is unlikely to back it.If not, we will likely leave without a deal....unless Gove can manage to tweak a few things.

Watching her speech what will happen.

A very brave woman.

if anyone today says that is what they wanted- then I'd have no answer.

So, with friends like that Theresa, who needs enemies.

So Corbyn is supporting her- and her own 'friends' are digging the knife in.

Tell you one thing, which many of us will agree perhaps - she has been incredible, more colliones that all of them put together- and as a Diabetic- I have no idea who she keeps going on. She will never get my vote- but she certainly has won my admiration-

I think disappointed &resigned is how I feel. It is like rolling down a hill towards an edge.. but you have no idea if it is rocks or sand on the other side!

I did try

oooops apologies for typos in previous post.

If you read it as sarcastic MawB - then it is your choice.

Lovely sunny day- so will do as Doc ordered (merci Catherine).

I think May is madly fiddling on the UK deck whilst her orchestra desert her. Problem is we’re all in this boat. ?

Polite and restrained - but more than a bit sarcastic too (no?)
But I can understand your disappointment.
I think few people will be genuinely happy with this proposal - least worst seems to be the best opinion I have read.
Sadly nobody though has taken up little DGS’s offer
“Are you happy, mummy?”
“Want a cuddle?” ?

Why- the OP was very polite and restrained. If some of you see it as Schadenfreude, it must be because they perceive it as a not very good/bad deal. Not the OP's fault- as it where.

You could have replied 'yes, we are, brilliant deal- just what we wanted' If you wished - so why didn't you?

What out for those mushrooms. As an expert in the field- and yes, I know, experts are not well received these days- those are poisonous.

I think there's more than just a little schadenfreude in the OP.

Just watched part of Barnier and Tusk press conference, they both looked extremely "smug".

Send some ???? to H of P, the lunatics that are running the asylum might make more sense with some "magical" help????

You can depend on GN to move seamlessly from the sublime to the ridiculous (or something)