Police knocking criminals off mopeds

Petra

As I was saying, the POLICE arent happy about this:
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/25/police-risk-prosecution-for-moped-crime-tactics?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR1Ht33uMGMvyRQlIqe7sBhFqRe0zQxYtT1x6UF3WYX5sJViXfO6SD27dzE

Meanwhile Diane Abbott tweets :

'Knocking people off bikes is potentially very dangerous. It shouldn't be legal for anyone. Police are not above the law.'

Try telling that to someone who has been robbed, attacked or stabbed Ms Abbott.

'Knocking people off bikes is potentially very dangerous.
I'm not sure about it either.

It could set a precedent for other motorists to knock cyclists off mopeds, bicycles etc because they are annoyed with them (or disagree with their politics!).

However, something does need to be done about these vicious moped gangs that are terrorising pedestrians.

ps it doesn't worry me as they deserve all they get imo, it is the setting of a precedent that worries me.

The police are doing it in a bid to catch serious criminals though Jalima not just at random . I agree Something does have to be done and I think this is possibly a step
In the right direction . Maybe DA thinks shouting “stop, come back at once ” through a megaphone might do the trick

or perhaps she's worried they may knock Jeremy off his bike by mistake
Oh, I forgot, his is a pushbike, hardly a get-away vehicle.

Once Ms Abbott is the Home Secretary she will ensure a further 10 quid goes into the police budget to provide for 10,000 new officers and then there'll be no need to knock the poor criminals off their mopeds.

What happens to these riders when they get caught,whilst not a scooter rider a young man in London had his bike clipped by a car (total accident) and chased after the car and took a machete from his coat and hit the drivers window repeatedly with the serracted egde,his mother said he had the knife for his own protection.
He was given a 2 yr suspended sentance and 150 hrs of unpaid work.
I would have thrown away the key and have one more knife yealding thug off the streets.

I am all for it. These feral youngsters have got away with what they like for years.

The consequences of their crimes are far reaching, the police using these tactics have had specialist training.

I've been mugged twice - the first was abroad so not relevant.
The second was here, NE England. There were 2 of them on a moped. One got off and grabbed my bag - I tugged and the strap broke and the lad fell over . I wish now I'd kicked him where it hurts.
But he got up and got back on the moped. Luckily there wasn't much of value in my bag. And no weapons involved.
If there was a safe way to knock them off I would support it. But I can foresee problems for the police.

Which reminds me of a few years ago about this time of year dark,cold and raining. I was walking home from shopping when a youth was close-up behind me on a bicycle on the pavement. He scared me so much that I landed out with my umbrella and it knocked him off balance into the road. Police car was travelling down the road,saw the youth on the floor and I got the telling of as " he could have been killed !"

Well done Ellan!

He should not have been riding his bike on the pavement!

Someone I know was the subject of one of those moped muggings years ago in a foreign country; she was sitting at a pavement café having a coffee and they went past and whipped her bag off her shoulder.

Dianne Abbot says the way to stop a potentially dangerous chase is to stop pursuing. Of course - how simple. Just let them drive off, and then they are free to attack some other hapless victim, and do so confident in the knowledge that they won't be chased if they go fast because it might be too dangerous. What planet does this woman live on? I wonder just how she would feel if one of her family were stabbed with a screwdriver, slashed or attacked with acid ?

Planet Jeremmmmyyyyy I suspect Rosina .

Diane Abbott who in their right mind would take any notice of anything she says another useless MP who only gets elected every year because she is in a safe seat. As for the police knocking lowlife scumbags off mopeds about time in my opinion they are finally doing something they have my 100% support.

There should be a " nail strip " similar to what's used on the stolen car criminals.

Not sure it would work on mopeds though EllanVannin plus they would just dodge it up on to the pavement wouldn’t they?

I'd be all for the stocks in towns and cities to humiliate them. I'm sure many members of the public would have a field day.

EV really ? A return to the stocks? I suppose public hangings for sheep stealing could make a come back as well? And then there’s lynch mobs.

However angry we might all feel about criminals of all sorts, if our law-enforcers adopt tactics that are dubious in their morality, it is a poor refection on our civilisation.

If someone moped-mugged any of my loved ones, I would be incandescent with rage, as we all would, but I also recognise that there are police actions that cannot be tolerated in a civilised nation. The issuing of guns to police and their use is rightly very carefully monitored and circumscribed; in this instance the police is car is also a lethal weapon.

I am not on the side of the criminals - as someone is no doubt about to tell me! - but I value the ethos of our society.

And please don't ask me what I might do instead as I have no answer. What I do know is that this policy is morally dubious.

I lived near Guildford when the pub bombing happened. I heard the hatred expressed and views of what people wanted to do to the Guildford Four - well we know how that worked our don’t we? And the Birmingham Six - and in both cases the people were subject to police brutality because well hey we all knew they were guilty didn’t we?

MaryEliza54 yes,it's about humiliation as these thugs think they're tough and above the law so throwing rotten stuff at them would be just the punishment that's needed.
What are your suggestions, a slapped wrist ?