Police knocking criminals off mopeds

I was amazed at the news. Then i was concerned for the sons daughters nephews neices mums dads etc who police our streets trying to protect us so that the country we all live in can be safe. I do not want this to happen on our streets but am more of the opinion that i do not want people thinking that they can cause harm to anyone and not suffer the consequences. The police are not doing it lightly it is not a game they are being trained.

These 'children who have no choice' are quite prepared to surround a victim in the street, armed with screwdrivers, knives, acid, and anything else to main or kill without compunction. The Police are 'bumping' them off their bikes, not driving full tilt at them, and this treatment has evidently reduced the number of attacks dramatically. These are some of the best and most skilful drivers on the road. Given a choice between bumping a violent, disaffected complete waste of space off his bike or watching an innocent person killed or maimed I think I know where my sympathies lie.

I'm more concerned about the do-gooders as they seem to have their own way whatever their gripe especially if these thugs are from ethnic backgrounds.
Shouldn't these do-gooders be putting their money where their mouth is and help the police track down these miscreants ?
I'm playing Devil's Advocate here as I'll be waiting for the first fatality whoever it might be and whatever the circumstances,then watch the public turn !!

I don't think the public will turn. Apart from the criminal's family, when a burglar got fatally stabbed by the pensioner homeowner fairly recently, there wasn't a lot of sympathy for the robber. Similarly, I believe the general consensus from the public is that their sympathy will lie with innocent victims who are stabbed or have acid thrown at them.

EllanVannin
I don't think the majority of the public will 'turn'

Let the police do their job. Or don't complain if you or yours become a victim.

If the police had the resources and back up and numbers to do their job properly & safely they wouldnt need to resort to this sort of tactic....

..this isnt about not supporting the police, many police do not like the new strategies and tactics being introduced to compensate for lack of proper numbers and resources!

No, the general public won’t ‘turn’ ( a few luvvies might at least until they themselves are robbed and roughed up by moped riders.)
Riders were taking their helmets off as they thought the police wouldn’t then chase them.....wrong! They are not ‘vulnerable children who have no choice’ what a ludicrous idea that is, but aggressive and potentially very dangerous gangs criminally minded as it’s an easy life.
The more the police knock off the better.

The risk to the general public is from the police car chasing the scooter, that is far more likely to cause injury than the moped, so they ask permission to bump the scooter. What are they supposed to do ?, let them go Scot free. There was a video on the news this week taken by a member of the public filming a gang attacking 2 police officers, one woman, they risk their lives upholding the law. The video was more important than the police.
In my book if a criminal gets injured breaking the law, tough.

The cause, neglect, indiscipline and an over liberal society in general.

The truth is police are now often lone working without back up and so afraid to get out of their cars. Thats the real reason that this sort of manoeuvre is replacing old style team efforts.

notanan the police are never lone.They are always paired up ( police officer in the family.)

Same for paranedics, theyre having to be trained up in more aggressive forms of defence and restraint because they no longer get as much police back up as they used to..

Theyre not being "allowef to do their jobs, for sure...

notanan the police are never lone.They are always paired up ( police officer in the family.)

NOW they sometimes are..never were until recently .police in the family too.. has happened in our local force. As has "illusion of numbers" tactics

They are being trained up as you say, because society has become more feral in some areas, and ambulances and staff, firemen etc are being attacked.This training is a good idea, as calling the police inevitably means a delay, and in that tine, they could be assaulted.

They may be ‘lone’ in some cases, taking a statement or attending the scene of a burglary, but for most of the time, in cars or on foot they are still paired up.

They are being trained up because the exact same class of incident that previously would have been an automatic police escort in the past, no longer necessarily is due to cuts.

Lemongrove they have been at times lone in cars in my area (and they are not happy about it)

Only very recently

Ambulances do not routinely travel about with police escorts and never did.

I take it you don’t agree with bumping these thugs off their mopeds then?

The police had to do something drastic - the moped criminals were winning. And apparently it's effective so I support the measure.

Ambulances do not routinely travel about with police escorts and never did.

There were certain types of calls outs which always did in the past mean police would be in attendance too...now paramedics are having to deal with some of these types of incidents without police there too

Works both ways actually.. recently called police and ambulance and only police attended, the injuries were somewhat beyond first aid and IMO the police were in a dodgy position re dealing with it without proper medics.

The pressure is on to be all rounders so that less people have to actually attend. Scary stuff.

I think it is wonderful to see the police dealing properly with the recent spate of moped crime, instead of the usual namby pamby slapped wrist approach.

Of course it will only be a matter of time before the 'abusing their human rights' brigade start their usual howls of outrage.

If this doesn't work I think the police should 'nudge' them with an articulated lorry ? that should do it.