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winterwhite Sat 08-Dec-18 18:14:52

Nonnie I think that whatever happens TM will now -go down in history as the PM who ruined our economy for years- . She was also too stubborn to listen to her own advisers. Her party should have replaced her ages ago.

Nonnie Sat 08-Dec-18 16:38:29

It now seems that the majority wish to remain in the EU but will they get the chance to prove it at the ballot box? That would be the democratic thing to do and it is about time TM realised it. If she doesn't allow a public vote on the deal she will go down in history as the PM who ruined our economy for years because she was too stubborn to listen to her own people.

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 13:58:33

I agree Granny23 but the majority voted out .

Jane10 Sat 08-Dec-18 13:50:52

Ignoring Pro SNP rant, YouGov is not exactly representative. I joined at one point as no one of the polls ever asked my opinion. I actually gave up doing the YouGov polls as they were so slanted or included lots of intrusive questions of commercial information to them.

Granny23 Sat 08-Dec-18 13:33:37

Annie Ah BUT if Welsh people had kown what they know now would they have voted leave?

Opal It is really very simple. Scotland as a member of the Union that is the UK will always be outvoted at Westminster due to the huge disparity in numbers of MPs from English v Scottish Constituencies. Whereas an Independent Scotland in the EU would have a seat at the top table equal to every other country in the EU and could form alliances with other like minded countries on particular issues.

The People in Scotland had no vote in the decision to join up in the United Kingdom. That was decided by the nobility while the People rioted in the streets. There have been many attempts since to reverse this situation. Indeed at various times 'Home Rule' for Scotland was Liberal and Labour Policy. Currently their is a pro Independence (and pro EU) majority in the Scottish Parliament as voted in by the Scottish people and also among the Scottish MPs at Westminster. *

They did vote to join the EU, were warned during the 2014 referendum that to vote YES would mean they were out of the EU, only a NO vote would keep them in and finally voted strongly 65%, to REMAIN during the Brexit referendum.

* As a wee hypothetical aside - If England had decided to leave or dissolve the Union, it could all have been agreed at Westminster in an afternoon as English MPs can always out vote those from Wales NI and Scotland.

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 12:33:19

I voted remain, I live in Wales, always have. Wales voted out, I accept the result because it was a U.K. vote ,

Opal Sat 08-Dec-18 12:28:50

paddyann - got to say your post is bait, and I've bitten, against my better judgement. YOUR people voted to stay as part of OUR UK, and as such, they do not have a separate vote to us when it comes to Brexit. OUR people voted to leave and, as part of the UK, that includes YOUR people. What a divisive post yours is. I love Scotland and the Scottish people, I love Wales and the Welsh people, my Dad was a proud Welshman, but we are still ONE United Kingdom - which YOUR people voted to remain a part of - and as such, we have ALL decided to leave - it's a democracy. If Scotland want independence, they need to vote for it. As per a previous thread I started, I still don't understand why some Scots want independence from the UK but not from Brussels.

Anniebach Sat 08-Dec-18 12:24:36

But we voted as the U.K. not as four seperate countries

Nonnie Sat 08-Dec-18 12:13:25

From the map it looks as if it is not the will of many to leave. However, will the government take any notice?

paddyann Sat 08-Dec-18 12:03:28

Please note ALL consituencies in Scotland returned a REMAIN vote .OUR government is fighting for our right to remain despite being left out of discussions ,ignored and treated appallingly in and out of the HOC.Its not the will of OUR people to leave .

Nonnie Sat 08-Dec-18 11:17:38

d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/3fwsayvj02/PeoplesVote_181129_Brexit_w.pdf

and yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/12/06/mays-brexit-deal-leads-just-two-constituencies-it-