A leadership contest!

It’s hard owning up to being a Conservative on gn, especially as they are not performing “particularly well” at the moment (“tongue in cheek”).

Relying on and limited by one “trade block” in the 21st century is rather narrow minded.

Well, that's really weird, GG because most countries seem to be very keen to join trade blocs in the 21st C.

There are loads of them:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_bloc

1 billion of overseas aid is counted in what we pay to the EU.

Does Pakistan need over £400 million of our money every year ?

Ethiopia= over £350 million ?

Afghanistan=over £300 million ?

Nigeria=over £250 million ?

Syria=over £250 million ?

Sierra Leone=over £200 million ?

South Sudan=over £200 million ?

Tanzania=over £200 million ?

India=£200 million ?

Bangladesh=£200 million ?

Aepgirl not only do they not want us to leave, and need the billions we pay in, they have to make this severance as bloody and painful as possible as there are other countries who would follow suit if the EU saw us off with a cheery wave, a decent agreement and no hard feelings. That was never, ever going to happen.

Well try being on GN the tiniest bit left of centre and you’re a Marxist-Trotskyite-Corbynists card carrying member of Momentum GG . The main difference is that many of us on the left are actually able to criticise the left but sadly the right on GN generally don’t criticise their own.

MaizieD - I feel you have misinterpreted my post, free of the EU the UK can have more options to choose from whom they wish to trade freely with, without the constraints of the EU.

Sorry but any Conservatives out there who are not criticising the mess the party is in at the moment must either be delusional or partaking of a total news blackout!

GrannyGravy13, you are correct in stating that a vote of no confidence was brought against Jeremy Corbyn by the Parliamentary Labour Party in 2016. However, in the way it was brought forward it had no constitutional legitimacy under the rules of the Labour Party and broader Labour movement.

However, Jeremy Cobyn offered himself up for re-election and won that Ballot with an increased and overwhelming majority.

The Labour party then went on to achieve a national membership of over half a million.

Some leader to challenge as those that tried it found out.

Challenge? No one can stand against UNITE and Momentum. Unless they want to lose their position as MP ,

Well no other Conservatives on here ( including annie* ?) seems to think there’s anything wrong with giving the whip back to those two apologies for men do they?

Unfortunately JC has not got the backing of the MPs of the Labour Party, neither has TM.

True GrannyGravy

Dont trust any of them!!

GrannyGravy13, Anniebach, Jeremy Corbyn along with the the elected Executive Committees have given the Labour district, regional and constituency parties far greater powers and in that the elected members of parliament are answerable and responsible to them.

The various Labour movement conferences set national policies for those bodies to follow and all MPs are expected to subscribe those policies also.

And that the way it should be.

Every country in the world is in some kind of trade bloc. Apart from Mauritania.

If the brexiters have their way we could out-do Mauritania, become Ruritania, the pantomime country which gives everyone a good laugh.

They will soon get rid of Corbyn if he loses the next GE...
Whenever that may be.

What an amazingly insightful post lemon thanks for sharing.

Don’t mention it! Oh, you already have done.

lemongrove, Jeremy Corbyn may well be relieved of the leadership if the Labour Party had a poor result at the next General Election. However, it would not return to the party of Tony Blair or Gordon Brown as they took the subscription and affiliation money off often poorly paid grassroots members for many years and gave them absolutely nothing in return.

Even if Labour do badly at the next election, those grassroots members will still retain the present policies I feel, for the party now belongs fully to them and in that the principles surrounding those policies are sacrosanct and will not change.

The above I very much respect.

The Blair /Brown got something right, only time in the history of the party that labour won three consecutive elections. But -

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-election-campaign-vote-seats-won-share-worst-70-years-jeremy-corbyn-tony-blair-a7840231.html

Oh. So which major economies are we desperate to trade with, but can't because we're in the EU,*GG*?

It doesn't matter if or when JC is replaced another extremist will get elected, that's what the party wanted. They are never going to elect a centre leaning leader that is going to appeal to a wider electorate, the Labour Party as we know it is doomed!.

Anniebach, Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party were more than twenty points behind in the opinion polls at the start of the 2017 general election campaign. The foregoing was the sole reason why Theresa May called that disastrous election for her party as it was her intention to destroy the Labour Party.

Well, all her present problems and that of the Tory party can be linked back to the result of that election and the Labour Parties far better than expected performance in it.

The above is the reason why Jeremy Corbyn wishes to have a general election rather than a second peoples vote on Brexit. In that, it has been demonstrated that when people see the compleat labour policies on such matters as Housing, the NHS, the Gig Economy, workers right and much more, they are then prepared to support them.

Davidhs I agree but not the party wanted an extremist, UNITE and Momentum wanted an extremist . The labour party is dead, time will tell if the country wants a far left government .