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ayse Wed 12-Dec-18 08:05:57

So now Mrs May is going to face a vote of no confidence! I find it difficult to believe that a political party would take this action at this time! She’s done well with this poisoned chalice and who could do better than she has?

Parliament has reached an impasse and is split just like the country.

This to my mind is a national emergency and maybe it’s time for a wartime style cabinet so that some consensus could be reached about the way forward.

What a mess!

janeainsworth Thu 13-Dec-18 15:33:40

Ganging

Lisagran Thu 13-Dec-18 15:35:48

I know GrannyGravy13, but I still think putting it out there in a comment is normalising it - just, in my opinion, not appropriate. If it’s later reported that there were such threats, then one could comment on that - but to speculate on the possibility seems distasteful and unnecessary ( in my opinion)

maryeliza54 Thu 13-Dec-18 15:36:36

It’s not the facts of the threats it’s the way abs post used the fact to try to imply something. And nice what’s your definition of bullying - putting forward a well reasoned fact based argument?

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 15:47:23

Unbelievable, no female MP’s have been threatened with rape and to say they have is ‘insensitive, appalling and completely inappropriate ‘ .

I am use to it Nicenanny

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 15:56:54

1. Labour female MP’s received threats of rape when they voted no confidence in Corbyn. Fact

The Corbyn hit list was published. Fact

2. I asked a question, ‘ Will Mrs May have a hit list. Will female MP’s who voted against her be threatened with rape?

Grandad1943 Thu 13-Dec-18 16:00:56

Anniebach Quote [Labour female MP’s received threats of rape when they voted no confidence in Corbyn. Fact] End Quote

Anniebach, can you post a link(s) to your above allegations

maryeliza54 Thu 13-Dec-18 16:01:43

You used a serious issue that affects many women in public life in a totally inappropriate way to make a cheap anti Corbyn comment. It was unnecessary insensitive and appalling

lemongrove Thu 13-Dec-18 16:10:43

Since Anniebach has explained her comment then to go on commenting ‘how appalled’ ( faux outrage) is just silly.
I can well imagine that female MP’s were targeted in that awful way when they voted no confidence in Corbyn.
Female MP’s have to deal with that kind of thing a lot, letters, emails, online etc.Just awful.

mcem Thu 13-Dec-18 16:12:41

Faux outrage indeed!

lemongrove Thu 13-Dec-18 16:16:33

Indeed.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Dec-18 16:22:09

Lisagran, discussing or mentioning rape or assault does nothing to normalise these things. What it does do is bring it out into the open, so that the victims are not further victimised / traumatised due to feeling unable to report it.

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 16:37:34

Seems the Corbyn supporters here didn’t know police were called in to investigate the claims of rape.

Sarah Champion, Jess Phillips and others lied ?

janeainsworth Thu 13-Dec-18 16:42:56

Grannygravy a better word might be ‘trivialising’. I think it is trivialising rape to use it in a sly dig, which is how I interpreted ab’s comment.
No one has implied anyone lied about receiving rape or death threats - why do you make that suggestion ab?

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 16:58:17

janeainsworth I cannot be held responsible for how you choose to interpret a post.

janeainsworth Thu 13-Dec-18 17:00:17

No annie I agree.
But it’s your responsibility express yourself clearly and to think about how others might interpret your cryptic remarks.

Anniebach Thu 13-Dec-18 17:03:19

It is impossible to know, think, guess , what others may assume or interpret

maryeliza54 Thu 13-Dec-18 17:13:01

Ah Jess Philips - that would be the Jess Philips that tore into the Tories (quite rightly) yesterday for restoring the whip to two Tory MPs so they could vote in the confidence election. Both suspended for for sexual misconduct issues which are still under investigation - still as long as they arent Corbyn supporters eh annie?

Grandad1943 Thu 13-Dec-18 17:17:25

Anniebach, again I ask, can this forum see links to your above allegations as I cannot remember a vote of no confidence being brought forward in regard to Jeremy Corbyns leadership on the Labour party since he took up that office?

I stand to be corrected if the above is in error

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Dec-18 17:17:41

As a conservative I was deeply disappointed that those two MP’s had the whip restored in order for them to be able to vote.

EllanVannin Thu 13-Dec-18 17:19:36

Day6 we NEED the EU !! Okay so it costs. So what ? So does foreign aid, only more !

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Dec-18 17:21:42

Grandad just enter Labour Party vote of no confidence June 2016 in your search engine, it comes up immediately.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Dec-18 17:22:24

Oops add Jeremy Corbyn

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Dec-18 17:26:38

As the fifth biggest economy, why do we need the EU anymore than the rest of the world?

Relying on and limited by one “trade block” in the 21st century is rather narrow minded.

MaizieD Thu 13-Dec-18 17:28:44

^ So does foreign aid, only more^

As I understand it, the portion of our EU contribution which goes towards EU foreign aid (i.e to countries outside the EU) is actually counted as part of our foreign aid budget.

maryeliza54 Thu 13-Dec-18 17:29:45

Well thanks for saying that GG it’s rare for a Conservative on GN to criticise their own side - I think it was a disgrace and imagine how the women involved must feel?