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ayse Wed 12-Dec-18 08:05:57

So now Mrs May is going to face a vote of no confidence! I find it difficult to believe that a political party would take this action at this time! She’s done well with this poisoned chalice and who could do better than she has?

Parliament has reached an impasse and is split just like the country.

This to my mind is a national emergency and maybe it’s time for a wartime style cabinet so that some consensus could be reached about the way forward.

What a mess!

crystaltipps Thu 13-Dec-18 08:44:12

Well 63% of votes for Theresa May doesn’t cut it with some Brexiteers like JRM.

MawBroon Thu 13-Dec-18 08:25:58

Yes I spotted that too Nannyjan gringrin

JRM commented it was a bad day for TM and I found myself thinking (with a certain amount of glee) “but even worse for the likes of you! “

Grandad1943 Thu 13-Dec-18 08:12:44

Apologies should be "shreds" above not "threads".

Grandad1943 Thu 13-Dec-18 08:09:52

There would seem to be some very sore hardline Brexitiers posting on this forum since the result of the confidence vote

I have thoroughly enjoyed sitting back watching the Tory party tear itself to threads over the last forty-eight hours. The enjoyment was further strengthened when Jacob Rees Mogg made it very clear minutes" after the result was declared, "fight goes on". grin

NannyJan53 Thu 13-Dec-18 08:00:47

When the interviewer on BBC last night (I forget his name) was talking to JRM and LK, he said as they were finishing and he dismissed JRM, something along the lines of

I will let you go as I am sure you have much plotting to do! smile

Urmstongran Thu 13-Dec-18 07:59:23

It’s a funny old world. If Mrs. May had ‘hung on’ last night by even one vote she couldn’t be challenged again for a year. Yet 52% of votes to Leave the EU doesn’t cut it with some ....

crystaltipps Thu 13-Dec-18 06:42:15

Agree that TM has herself to blame, by not acknowledging the 48% and going for a soft Brexit right from the start, instead we were promised the moon and the stars, that the EU needed us more than we need them, we would get a marvellous deal etc. It comes to something when a lot of her critics are relieved that the 2nd worse PM in history ( David Cameron takes first place) wins a vote of no confidence and stays in post kicking the can along the road.

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Dec-18 02:06:17

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GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Dec-18 02:02:54

Wow!! We *are *royally wound up. Good grief, get a grip.
(S)he who laughs last, laughs longest. Rest assured, it won't be you.
A lot to say but you're not in government, therefore you'll have to suck up whatever ambrosia Theresa serves. grin

Day6 Thu 13-Dec-18 00:47:28

Our only hope of survival as a nation is to have a Labour Government as soon as possible.

Hahahahaha! grin You are of course joking? I sincerely hope you are.

Talk about melodrama too. "Our only hope of survival"????? Really?

Anyone would think the world was caving in. We have a lousy deal with the EU and we will carry on without being part of that organisation.

If this is your idea of 'the end', I'd hate you to suffer a REAL crisis. confused

Ramblingrose22 Thu 13-Dec-18 00:04:22

Agree with MaizieD here.
Michael Portillo suggested that we should have negotiated the trade deal first as that might have avoided the need for a backstop on the island of Ireland.
Theresa May only has herself to blame for trying to placate the Leavers in the first place. Now they feel cheated by the outcome and persist in the belief that she could have got a different and better deal.
She has explained that no deal can be made without a backstop on the island of Ireland because it is where the EU has a land border with another sovereign country but they have no real alternative plan to avoid the backstop. None of the technological solutions they refer to exist at present and no-one knows if they ever will.
They should have thought about the border issue before they went round during the referendum campaign saying that leaving the EU would be easy.

sluttygran Wed 12-Dec-18 23:55:11

Our only hope of survival as a nation is to have a Labour Government as soon as possible.

MaizieD Wed 12-Dec-18 23:29:41

Yes, Gabriella Crackpot leavers.

Because anyone who thinks that leaving with no deal and no trade deals at all and no trust internationally, because we've broken agreements and international treaties, and breaking the web of international agreements which affect everything from planes flying to protecting our borders, and who is perfectly content to take the risk of igniting civil war in NI again and everything else that people less obsessed with evils of a monster called the EU which was created to scare people into voting leave, are warning us of if we leave with no deal, is plainly completely insane or irresponsible or looking to make a great deal of money out of the chaos.

maryeliza54 Wed 12-Dec-18 23:12:20

Well dear Jacob not quite the shining polite gentlemen some of you used to think he was - entitled people like him are always sore losers.Never mind, I’m sure Nanny will make him a cup of cocoa and soothe his troubled brow.

MawBroon Wed 12-Dec-18 22:56:01

JRM implied that many hold what in education are referred to as “promoted” posts so if they cherish any hopes of advancement they can forget them now.

GabriellaG54 Wed 12-Dec-18 22:49:33

'^crackpot leavers'^?
...and you are...?
Sour words from a bitter loser. grin

MaizieD Wed 12-Dec-18 22:41:50

I hope there are 117 resignations in the near future

117 resignations from what, MawBroon. Most of them are just MPs (including JRM). do you want them to resign their seats? That would be fun, 117 bye-elections with the prospect of some of them losing to Labour or the Lib-Dems and cutting May's majority even further!

As far as I can see May still has the problem of getting the Withdrawal Agreement passed by Parliament ( which she probably won't, even with a bit of tweaking to the backstop)

Parliament will do all it can to prevent the crackpot Leavers from manoeuvring the UK into a no deal. So unless that is May's endgame (as I have seen suggested) 'no deal' is more or less off the table. Her deal or no Brexit seem the only avenues left open.

Bathsheba Wed 12-Dec-18 22:27:20

Such a relief, I really couldn't bear the prospect of us being thrown into even more turmoil than we're already in. The mire is deep enough as it is. And yes, I hope she sacks the plotters.
At least there can't be another leadership challenge for at least a year now. Phew!

merlotgran Wed 12-Dec-18 22:21:55

Hang on in there, TM. Any alternative is too awful to contemplate.

Anniebach Wed 12-Dec-18 22:17:42

JRM said he accepts the vote but she should now go to the queen and resign. How is this accepting the vote ?

MawBroon Wed 12-Dec-18 22:17:21

200-117
If the Referendum had been in the same proportion there would be no arguments now.
“There are lies, damn lies and statistics” ?

Bellanonna Wed 12-Dec-18 22:16:34

That bias really surprised me tonight. And JRM gave her a smile. I’ve always liked her until now.

MawBroon Wed 12-Dec-18 22:15:23

I am starting to actively dislike Laura Kuenssberg, her bias and gloating truly turn me off.

Bellanonna Wed 12-Dec-18 22:12:32

Good description of JRM’s reaction maw.

Anniebach Wed 12-Dec-18 22:11:13

She has such dignity