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If the Referendum had been in the same proportion there would be no arguments now.
“There are lies, damn lies and statistics” ?
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So now Mrs May is going to face a vote of no confidence! I find it difficult to believe that a political party would take this action at this time! She’s done well with this poisoned chalice and who could do better than she has?
Parliament has reached an impasse and is split just like the country.
This to my mind is a national emergency and maybe it’s time for a wartime style cabinet so that some consensus could be reached about the way forward.
What a mess!
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If the Referendum had been in the same proportion there would be no arguments now.
“There are lies, damn lies and statistics” ?
JRM said he accepts the vote but she should now go to the queen and resign. How is this accepting the vote ?
Hang on in there, TM. Any alternative is too awful to contemplate.
Such a relief, I really couldn't bear the prospect of us being thrown into even more turmoil than we're already in. The mire is deep enough as it is. And yes, I hope she sacks the plotters.
At least there can't be another leadership challenge for at least a year now. Phew!
I hope there are 117 resignations in the near future
117 resignations from what, MawBroon. Most of them are just MPs (including JRM). do you want them to resign their seats? That would be fun, 117 bye-elections with the prospect of some of them losing to Labour or the Lib-Dems and cutting May's majority even further!
As far as I can see May still has the problem of getting the Withdrawal Agreement passed by Parliament ( which she probably won't, even with a bit of tweaking to the backstop)
Parliament will do all it can to prevent the crackpot Leavers from manoeuvring the UK into a no deal. So unless that is May's endgame (as I have seen suggested) 'no deal' is more or less off the table. Her deal or no Brexit seem the only avenues left open.
'^crackpot leavers'^?
...and you are...?
Sour words from a bitter loser. 
JRM implied that many hold what in education are referred to as “promoted” posts so if they cherish any hopes of advancement they can forget them now.
Well dear Jacob not quite the shining polite gentlemen some of you used to think he was - entitled people like him are always sore losers.Never mind, I’m sure Nanny will make him a cup of cocoa and soothe his troubled brow.
Yes, Gabriella Crackpot leavers.
Because anyone who thinks that leaving with no deal and no trade deals at all and no trust internationally, because we've broken agreements and international treaties, and breaking the web of international agreements which affect everything from planes flying to protecting our borders, and who is perfectly content to take the risk of igniting civil war in NI again and everything else that people less obsessed with evils of a monster called the EU which was created to scare people into voting leave, are warning us of if we leave with no deal, is plainly completely insane or irresponsible or looking to make a great deal of money out of the chaos.
Our only hope of survival as a nation is to have a Labour Government as soon as possible.
Agree with MaizieD here.
Michael Portillo suggested that we should have negotiated the trade deal first as that might have avoided the need for a backstop on the island of Ireland.
Theresa May only has herself to blame for trying to placate the Leavers in the first place. Now they feel cheated by the outcome and persist in the belief that she could have got a different and better deal.
She has explained that no deal can be made without a backstop on the island of Ireland because it is where the EU has a land border with another sovereign country but they have no real alternative plan to avoid the backstop. None of the technological solutions they refer to exist at present and no-one knows if they ever will.
They should have thought about the border issue before they went round during the referendum campaign saying that leaving the EU would be easy.
Our only hope of survival as a nation is to have a Labour Government as soon as possible.
Hahahahaha!
You are of course joking? I sincerely hope you are.
Talk about melodrama too. "Our only hope of survival"????? Really?
Anyone would think the world was caving in. We have a lousy deal with the EU and we will carry on without being part of that organisation.
If this is your idea of 'the end', I'd hate you to suffer a REAL crisis. 
Wow!! We *are *royally wound up. Good grief, get a grip.
(S)he who laughs last, laughs longest. Rest assured, it won't be you.
A lot to say but you're not in government, therefore you'll have to suck up whatever ambrosia Theresa serves. 
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Agree that TM has herself to blame, by not acknowledging the 48% and going for a soft Brexit right from the start, instead we were promised the moon and the stars, that the EU needed us more than we need them, we would get a marvellous deal etc. It comes to something when a lot of her critics are relieved that the 2nd worse PM in history ( David Cameron takes first place) wins a vote of no confidence and stays in post kicking the can along the road.
It’s a funny old world. If Mrs. May had ‘hung on’ last night by even one vote she couldn’t be challenged again for a year. Yet 52% of votes to Leave the EU doesn’t cut it with some ....
When the interviewer on BBC last night (I forget his name) was talking to JRM and LK, he said as they were finishing and he dismissed JRM, something along the lines of
I will let you go as I am sure you have much plotting to do! 
There would seem to be some very sore hardline Brexitiers posting on this forum since the result of the confidence vote
I have thoroughly enjoyed sitting back watching the Tory party tear itself to threads over the last forty-eight hours. The enjoyment was further strengthened when Jacob Rees Mogg made it very clear minutes" after the result was declared, "fight goes on". 
Apologies should be "shreds" above not "threads".
Yes I spotted that too Nannyjan 

JRM commented it was a bad day for TM and I found myself thinking (with a certain amount of glee) “but even worse for the likes of you! “
Well 63% of votes for Theresa May doesn’t cut it with some Brexiteers like JRM.
I agree crystaltipps ... as I said, a funny old world.
Don't you just love the impartiality of the BBC?
Every commentator managed to squeeze in that 'a third of her party voted against her' - not one of them managed to say that two thirds of the party voted for her.
As for 'survival under a Labour government ' - God help us. JC on the world stage in his anorak ? Dianne Abbott as Chancellor of the Exchequer? Floodgates open to the world? Roll up, roll up - watch Great Britain sink slowly, bankrupt and without an inch of floorspace left, into the North Sea.
My hope of survival certaintly isn’t Corbyn, McDonald and McClusky.
Will Mrs May have a hit List. Will the female MP’s who voted against May be threatened with rape ?
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